MHB Proof of Gρ(x)=ρGxρ−1 in Symmetric Groups

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The discussion centers on proving the equality Gρ(x) = ρGxρ−1 for a subgroup G of Sym(X) and an element ρ in G. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the stabilizer's definition, which consists of elements in G that fix a specific element x in the set X. The proof involves showing that elements from Gρ(x) can be expressed in terms of the conjugate subgroup ρGxρ−1 and vice versa, establishing mutual containment. Key insights include recognizing that conjugates of stabilizers stabilize the image of the original element under the group action. The conversation highlights the necessity of correctly applying group theory concepts to complete the proof.
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Let G be a subgroup of Sym(X) and ρ ∈ G. Prove that Gρ(x) = ρGxρ−1, where ρGxρ−1 = {ρgρ−1|g ∈ Gx}

What I Know: I need to somehow prove the left is contained in the right and the right is contained in the left.

What I Have Done: Well based on the definition of a stabilizer Gx I assumed that Gρ(x) = {g'(p(x))=p(x) | g' w/in G} Sorry, I'm not sure if that is correct or not.

Then for (Left contained in right): For all g' w/in G, g'(p(x)=p(x) ---> (g'p)(x)=p(x) ---> pg'p-1p-1p(x)=p(p(x))p-1p-1 (multiplied both sides by pp-1p-1)
--->pg'p-1(x)=x (by associativity for a group) and that is contained in pgp-1 which equals ρGxp−1

Haven't attempted the "right contained in the left" because I'm not even sure if I even did the initial part correctly, I feel like I messed up. Any help please??

Thank you!
 
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Hi mathjam0990,

Based on what you've written for $G_{\rho(x)}$, I take it that you haven't yet grasped the definition of the stabilizer. If $G$ is a group acting (on the left) on a set $S$, then for each $s\in S$, the stabilizer $G_s$ of $s$ is defined as the set of all elements of $G$ which fix $s$, i.e., $\{g\in G : gs = s\}$. In your prompt, you should have stated that $x\in X$.

Now if $a\in G_{\rho(x)}$, then $a\in G$ and $a(\rho(x)) = \rho(x)$. Thus $\rho^{-1}a\rho(x) = \rho^{-1}\rho(x) = x$; since $G$ is a subgroup of $\operatorname{Sym}(X)$ and both $a,\rho\in G$, then $\rho^{-1}a\rho\in G$. Therefore $\rho^{-1}a\rho\in G_x$, say $\rho^{-1}a\rho = b$ for some $b\in G_x$. Then $a = \rho b\rho^{-1}\in \rho G_x\rho^{-1}$.

Conversely, if $a\in \rho G_x \rho^{-1}$, then there is a $g\in G_x$ such that $a = \rho g \rho^{-1}$. Since $G$ is a subgroup of $\operatorname{Sym}(X)$ and $\rho, g\in G$, then $\rho g \rho^{-1}\in G$, i.e., $a\in G$. As $g(x) = x$, $a(\rho(x)) = \rho(g(x)) = \rho(x)$. Consequently $a\in G_{\rho(x)}$.
 
Some things to keep in mind:

for any group $G$, and any element $g \in G$, the map $x \mapsto g^{-1}xg$ is an automorphism of $G$ (an isomorphism $G \to G$), called the inner automorphism induced by $g$.

So, if $H$ is any subgroup of $G$, then $gHg^{-1}$ is *also* a subgroup of $G$ (isomorphic to $H$).

In particular, if $H$ is the stabilizer of some element in a set $S$ that $G$ acts on, say $H = G_a$, for some $a \in S$, it seems that $gG_ag^{-1}$ must also be a stabilizer of "something" (some perhaps different element of $S$).

But what? Let us see if we can discover this. Let $h \in G_a$, so $h(a) = a$. We will try to find out which $s \in S$ (if any) that $ghg^{-1}$ stabilizes.

From $ghg^{-1}(s) = s$ we have (letting $g^{-1}$ act on both sides):

$hg^{-1}(s) = g^{-1}(s)$, that is: $h(g^{-1}(s)) = g^{-1}(s)$. So $g^{-1}(s)$ must be an element of $S$ that $H = G_a$ stabilizes. We only know of one such element, $a$ (this is the only bit that requires a little cleverness).

So if we set $g^{-1}(s) = a$, we know this will work. Now we can solve for $s$, by having $g$ act on both sides:

$g(g^{-1}(s)) = g(a)$
$(gg^{-1})(s) = g(a)$
$e(s) = g(a)$
$s = g(a)$.

Clearly, then, $gG_ag^{-1}$ stablizes $g(a)$. This shows that $gG_ag^{-1} \subseteq G_{g(a)}$.

I'll repeat this finding, for emphasis:

CONJUAGTES $ghg^{-1}$ of stabilizers $h$ of $a\in S$, stabilize the IMAGE $g(a)$.

To show $G_{g(a)} \subseteq gG_ag^{-1}$, we just work backwards:

Suppose $x \in G$ is such that $x(g(a)) = g(a)$.

Then $xg(a) = g(a)$, so $g^{-1}xg(a) = g^{-1}g(a) = a$. That is, $g^{-1}xg$ stabilizes $a$.

From $g^{-1}xg \in G_a$, we have $x = exe = (gg^{-1})x(gg^{-1}) = g(g^{-1}xg)g^{-1} \in gG_ag^{-1}$, and that's the end of this short television episode.
 

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