Proof of limit derivation of Natural Logrithm

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the derivation of the limit expression for the natural logarithm, specifically the limit as n approaches infinity of n(x^(1/n)−1). Participants are exploring the mathematical foundations and techniques involved in this derivation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the limit expression for the natural logarithm and requests a derivation, indicating attempts using the limit definition of e^x.
  • Another participant suggests that the expression x = e^log(x) does not utilize limits or provide a proof, emphasizing the need for a limit-based approach.
  • A different participant proposes expanding e^(log(x)/n) as a potential method for deriving the limit.
  • There is a mention of difficulties in formatting mathematical expressions on mobile devices, which may affect the clarity of contributions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best approach to derive the limit, and multiple competing views and methods are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the properties of logarithms and limits may be implicit in the discussion, but these are not explicitly stated. The mathematical steps involved in the derivation remain unresolved.

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The natural logarithm can be expressed as
lim n(x^(1/n)−1)
n->ifinity

Can someone please derive this for me? I've tried using the limit definition of e^x and then applying f^-1(x) but i can only get
((n*x)-1)^1/n

any help is greatly appreciated thanks!
 
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hi cmcraes! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)

x = elogx ? :smile:
 
No that doesn't use limits nor does it prove anything other than the fact that the natural log and the exponential function cancel each other out

ps: I am on mobile so its not easy to do math print
 
expand elogx/n :wink:
 

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