Proof of the generalized Uncertainty Principle?

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The discussion revolves around the proof of the generalized uncertainty principle, specifically focusing on the relations presented in equation (4.20): $$(\Delta\;C)^{2} = \bra{\psi}A^{2}\ket{\psi}$$ and $$(\Delta\;D)^{2} = \bra{\psi}B^{2}\ket{\psi}$$. Participants clarify that the inequality $$\lvert \langle [C,D] \rangle \rvert^2 \le 4 \langle C^2 \rangle \langle D^2 \rangle$$ holds for any two Hermitian operators, including C and D. The derivation concludes with $$\lvert \langle [A,B] \rangle \rvert^2 \le 4 (\Delta A)^2 (\Delta B)^2$$, indicating a potential typo in the original proof regarding the use of operators A and B instead of C and D.

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i am trying to proof the generalized uncertainty principle , and i am stuck at some point
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(ΔC)^2 = <φ|A^2|φ>
hi guys
i am trying to follow a proof of the generalized uncertainty principle and i am stuck at the last step :
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i am not sure why he put these relations in (4.20) :
$$(\Delta\;C)^{2} = \bra{\psi}A^{2}\ket{\psi}$$
$$(\Delta\;D)^{2} = \bra{\psi}B^{2}\ket{\psi}$$
i tried to prove these using the difination of the expectation value and had no success! any help will be appreciated, thanks.
 
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Inequality (4.20) holds for any two hermitian operators. In particular, it holds for C and D. So you have
$$\lvert \langle [C,D] \rangle \rvert^2 \le 4 \langle C^2 \rangle \langle D^2 \rangle.$$ Then you can use (4.22) and (4.23) to write the righthand side in terms of ##\Delta A## and ##\Delta B##. And since [A,B] = [C,D], you end up with
$$\lvert \langle [A,B] \rangle \rvert^2 \le 4 (\Delta A)^2 (\Delta B)^2 .$$ Divide by 4 and take the square root to finish the derivation.

I'm wondering if the author meant to use A and B in (4.24) instead of C and D. There's also a pretty obvious typo in (4.23).
 
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vela said:
Inequality (4.20) holds for any two hermitian operators. In particular, it holds for C and D. So you have
$$\lvert \langle [C,D] \rangle \rvert^2 \le 4 \langle C^2 \rangle \langle D^2 \rangle.$$ Then you can use (4.22) and (4.23) to write the righthand side in terms of ##\Delta A## and ##\Delta B##. And since [A,B] = [C,D], you end up with
$$\lvert \langle [A,B] \rangle \rvert^2 \le 4 (\Delta A)^2 (\Delta B)^2 .$$ Divide by 4 and take the square root to finish the derivation.

I'm wondering if the author meant to use A and B in (4.24) instead of C and D. There's also a pretty obvious typo in (4.23).
thanks so much it becomes clear now :smile: , i guess the author meant ##A,B##
 
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