Proof Quest: Non-Equilateral Triangle Enclosing Point Z

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving a non-equilateral triangle and a point Z located inside it. Participants are tasked with proving an inequality related to the heights of the triangle and the perpendicular distances from point Z to the sides of the triangle. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of geometric properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in proving the inequality involving the heights and distances from point Z, noting that the problem is more complex due to the triangle not being equilateral.
  • Another participant suggests proving that the sum of the ratios of distances to heights equals one, and references a known inequality involving sums and harmonic means.
  • A later reply reiterates the need to prove the ratio condition and questions the parallelism of the distances involved, indicating a challenge in the proof due to the non-equilateral nature of the triangle.
  • Another participant clarifies that the altitudes and distances can be considered parallel in certain contexts and suggests a method involving the areas of the triangle to aid in the proof.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to prove the ratio condition, but there is disagreement on how to approach the proof, particularly regarding the implications of the triangle not being equilateral.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the relationship between the distances and heights, but there are unresolved assumptions about the geometric properties and the implications of non-parallel distances in the context of the proof.

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I am struggling with this question, it would be easy enough if the triangle was equilateral but that is not necessarily the case.

Let (ha, hb, hc) be heights in the triangle ABC, and let Z be a point inside the triangle.

Further to this, consider the points P, Q, R on the sides AB, BC and AC, respectively. P, Q, R lie such that ZP is perpendicular to AB, ZQ is perpendicular to BC, and ZR is perpendicular to AC.

Show that ha/ZQ + hb/ZR + hc/ZP >= 9.

So far I have considered;
Area(ABC) = Area(AZC) + Area(AZB) + Area(BZC) = 0,5*(AC*ZR)+0,5*(AB*ZP)+0,5*(BC*ZQ)

But I don't know if that is any useful. Any comments?

Here is a sketched form of the triangle;

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Prove that $$\frac{ZP}{h_c}+\frac{ZQ}{h_a}+\frac{ZR}{h_b}=1$$. Then use the fact that $$(x+y+z)\left(\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{z}\right)\ge9$$ (proved with the help of the harmonic mean).
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Prove that $$\frac{ZP}{h_c}+\frac{ZQ}{h_a}+\frac{ZR}{h_b}=1$$. Then use the fact that $$(x+y+z)\left(\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{z}\right)\ge9$$ (proved with the help of the harmonic mean).

Thank you for your response, Evgeny. Indeed that first expression (=1) must hold, but I am having a hard time to prove that $$\frac{ZP}{h_c}+\frac{ZQ}{h_a}+\frac{ZR}{h_b}=1$$ since the two "types" of distances (ZP - h_c etc) aren't parallel given that the triangle is not equilateral. Any idea?
 
frusciante said:
I am having a hard time to prove that $$\frac{ZP}{h_c}+\frac{ZQ}{h_a}+\frac{ZR}{h_b}=1$$ since the two "types" of distances (ZP - h_c etc) aren't parallel given that the triangle is not equilateral. Any idea?
I am not sure what you mean by parallel types of distances. The altitude from $C$ and $ZP$ are parallel since they are both perpendicular to $AB$. I suggest multiplying both $h_c$ and $ZP$ by $AB$ and using your observation about the sum of areas.
 

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