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The discussion revolves around the properties of sigma-algebras, specifically focusing on proving that a certain intersection of sigma-algebras containing a collection of subsets is itself a sigma-algebra. Participants are exploring the definitions and characteristics of sigma-algebras in the context of set theory.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to demonstrate that the intersection of all sigma-algebras containing a collection C is a sigma-algebra itself. Questions are raised about how to show that this intersection is a subset of any sigma-algebra containing C and whether it is indeed a sigma-algebra. Some participants are also questioning the definitions and implications of the statements made regarding the intersection.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the properties of H, the intersection of sigma-algebras. Some have offered guidance on demonstrating closure properties, while others are questioning the definitions and assumptions involved. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas without a clear consensus yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of set theory and sigma-algebras, with some expressing uncertainty about the implications of their definitions and the necessary proofs. There is an emphasis on ensuring that H contains C and satisfies the properties of a sigma-algebra.

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let C be acollection . of subsets of a set X , then there is asmallest sigma-algebra H containing C proof that:
H = the intersection of Bs ,B from F and F = familly of all sigma algebra that contains C
 
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You need to demonstrate that H is a subset of any sigma algebra which contains C and that H is a sigma algebra.
 
how? can u help me?
 
If you don't know how to demonstrate that the intersection of all sigma algebras containing C is a subset of any sigma algebra containing C, then no, I don't think I can.
 
Can you show: the intersection of any family of sigma-algebras (on X) is a sigma-algebra?
 
1) H, being the intersection of all sigma algebras containing C, also contains C.

2) Need to show H is a sigma algebra. Show this by showing that it's closed under union and complimentation. To do this remember that an element of H is an element of all B's.

3) The intersect is always smaller than each of the elements. Therefore with the intersect you'll find the sigma algebra that's the minimum. H is the minimum.
 
RedX said:
1) H, being the intersection of all sigma algebras containing C, also contains C.

H is defined to contain C. Otherwise the statement "H, being the intersection of all sigma algebras containing C, also contains C" need not be true. No?
 
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SW VandeCarr said:
H is defined to contain C. Otherwise the statement "H, being the intersection of all sigma algebras containing C, also contains C" need not be true. No?

H is defined to contain C.

The intersect of all sigma algebras containing C should also contain C.

Therefore it is possible for H to be the intersect of all sigma algebras containing C.

I just wanted to show that the intersection of all those sigma algebras satisfies everything that H satisfies, and later on argue that it's the smallest.
 

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