Proof that FTL communication quantum protocol is impossible?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the question of whether a self-contained proof exists that no quantum protocol for faster-than-light (FTL) communication can be established. Participants explore the implications of quantum mechanics on communication, particularly in relation to causality and the use of EPR pairs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for a direct proof that FTL communication is impossible, referencing their own work that connects FTL communication to violations of causality.
  • Another participant provides a reference to a document by Vanesch that purportedly proves the impossibility of FTL signaling using EPR pairs.
  • A third participant shares links to two arXiv papers that discuss the absence of nonlocal information in true quantum systems, suggesting these may be relevant to the topic.
  • A later reply thanks the contributors for the references provided, indicating interest in the materials shared.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence of a direct proof for the impossibility of FTL communication. Multiple references and viewpoints are presented, but no definitive agreement is established.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to specific quantum principles and theorems, but the limitations of these references and their applicability to the original question remain unresolved.

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Hi all,

I am reading pretty much everywhere that no quantum protocol for faster-than-light communication can exist.

Now, clearly neither super-dense coding nor any other quantum protocol I know of can be used for FTL communication - but is there a self-contained proof that no such protocol can exist? And if yes, where can I find it?

I am asking this because last week I had to prove, for one of my courses, that a certain problem can not be solved by any quantum algorithm: I managed to prove that if the problem had a solution then FTL communication would be possible, and therefore I concluded that no algorithm could solve the problem.

I also found -and included in my homework- a different proof of the same result by means of the no-deleting theorem, but it was definitely clunkier and less elegant than my first one.

So, I ended up using both proofs, and justifying the first one by saying that FTL communication (and hence, the original problem) can not be performed because, in a relativistic framework, it would lead to violations of the principle of causality.

But I wonder if a direct proof of the impossibility of using EPR pairs to transmit information without physical carriers exists - I just started taking an interest in quantum information theory, and for all I know there could be a fairly well-known theorem stating exactly this :smile:
 
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Thank you for the references! :smile:
 

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