Prove Differentiability of g(x) at x1: mx1+b=x0

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The discussion revolves around proving the differentiability of the function g(x) defined as g(x) = f(mx + b) at a specific point x1, where mx1 + b = x0. Participants explore different approaches to this proof, including using the definition of differentiability and the chain rule.

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  • One participant suggests proving differentiability using the definition of the derivative, specifically showing that the limit of (g(x1 + h) - g(x1)) / h exists as h approaches zero.
  • Another participant mentions that the definition of differentiability was included by them for relevance, not as part of the original question.
  • A different approach is proposed, where the chain rule is suggested as a method to prove differentiability without using the definition directly.
  • One participant provides a detailed limit calculation that leads to the conclusion g'(x1) = mf'(x0), demonstrating the application of the limit definition of the derivative.
  • There is a follow-up inquiry about using the previously established result to prove the derivative of a polynomial function of the form f(x) = (mx + b)^n, questioning whether to apply the derivative rule or the definition again.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method for proving differentiability; multiple approaches are discussed, and some participants express uncertainty about the best path forward.

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Some limitations in the discussion include the dependence on the definitions of differentiability and the chain rule, as well as the potential for varying interpretations of the proof methods suggested.

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Suppose that a function f is differentiable at x0 and define g(x)=f(mx+b), where m and b are constants. Prove that if x1 is a point at which mx1+b=x0, then g(x) is differentiable at x1 and g'(x1)=mf'(x0).
Definition: A function f is said to be "differentiable at x0" if the limit
[tex]f'(x_{0})= lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(x_{0}+h)-f(x_{0})}{h}[/tex]
exists. If f is differentiable at each point of the open interval(a,b), then we say that f is "differentiable on (a,b)", and similarily for open intervals of the form [tex](a,+\infty),(-\infty,b)and (-\infty,+\infty)[/tex]. In the last case we say f is "differentiable everywhere". I think this is a simple proof, but since I am doing this no my own with a book that doesn't do too many example proofs, I am lost. g(x1) = f(mx1+b) = f(x0), which I think proves the limit of g(x1) exists but g'(x1)=? Thanks for the help.
 
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I think they want you to do it from the definition. I.e. show that the limit of
[tex] \frac{g(x_{1}+h)-g(x_{1})}{h}[/tex]
for h to zero exists by substituting the definition of g and using that the appropriate limit for f exists.
 
Sorry, if I gave the wrong impression, but the definition I included myself thinking it relevant. The definition was not part of the original question.
 
If you don't want to use the definition, you can directly prove if from the chain rule, I suppose.

I checked the proof from the definition, it works out nicely. Just remember to bring the limit you get back in the form
[tex]\lim_{\delta \to 0} \frac{f(x_0 + \delta) - f(x_0)}{\delta}[/tex]
where [itex]\delta[/itex] is some new quantity depending on h.

(I cannot really give you more hints without doing the calculation for you, so I suggest you give this a try and post what you get).
 
[tex]\lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{ g(x_{1} +h) - g(x_{1})}{h} = \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(m(x_{1}+h)+b) - f(mx_{1} + b)}{h}[/tex]
[tex]= \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{ f(mx_{1} + mh + b) - f(mx_{1} + b)}{h}[/tex]
[tex]= \lim_{mh \rightarrow 0} m\frac{ f(mx_{1}+mh+b)-f(mx_{1}+b)}{mh}[/tex]
[tex]= \lim_{mh \rightarrow 0} m\frac{ f(mx_{1}+b+mh)-f(mx_{1}+b)}{mh}[/tex]
[tex]= m \lim_{\delta \rightarrow 0} \frac{ f(x_{0}+ \delta)-f(x_{0})}{\delta}[/tex]
[tex]= mf'(x_{0})[/tex]

If this is ok, now I got to use this result to prove that [tex]f'(x)=nm(mx+b)^{n-1}[/tex] if [tex]f(x) = (mx+b)^{n}[/tex], where m and b are constants and n is any integer. I know that [tex]\frac{dx^n}{dx}=nx^{n-1}[/tex] where n is any integer or do I use the definition given above in #1? Thanks again.
 
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Very well.

The quickest way indeed seems to be, to use that
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}f(x) = n x^{n-1}[/tex]
where f(x) = xn is differentiable anywhere, and use what you have just proven.
 

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