Prove Existence of Real Invertible Matrix Q for A & B 2x2 Similar Matricies

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The discussion revolves around the existence of a real invertible matrix Q that relates two given 2x2 real matrices A and B, which are similar when considered as complex matrices. The participants explore various approaches to demonstrate this relationship, focusing on properties of matrices and determinants.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if there exists an invertible complex matrix P such that B = [P^(-1)]AP, then a real matrix Q can be constructed as Q = (1/2)(P + P bar), but notes that Q may not be invertible.
  • Another participant asserts that since P is invertible, the determinant of Q can be expressed as det Q = 1/2(det P + (det P)*), implying that if det P is non-zero, then det Q is also non-zero, suggesting Q is invertible.
  • A different participant raises a concern about the case when det P = i, arguing that this could lead to det Q being zero, and expresses difficulty in deriving the determinant formula for Q.
  • One participant proposes a simpler approach by suggesting Q = αP for any real nonzero α, indicating a potential path to find an invertible Q.
  • Another participant introduces the idea of separating P into its real and imaginary parts, X and Y, and discusses how to construct Q as Q = X + αY, emphasizing the need to find a suitable real α that ensures Q is invertible.
  • This participant also notes that the determinant of the matrix formed by X + zY is a polynomial and argues that since f(i) ≠ 0, there exists a real α that avoids the roots of this polynomial, thus ensuring Q is invertible.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the invertibility of Q and the implications of the determinant of P. There is no consensus on a definitive method to prove the existence of the real invertible matrix Q, and multiple approaches are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their assumptions regarding the determinants and the conditions under which Q is invertible. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the implications of specific values of det P and the conditions required for Q's invertibility.

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Let A and B be 2x2 real matricies, and suppose there exists an invertible complex 2x2 matrix P such that B = [P^(-1)]AP.

Show that there exists a real invertible 2x2 matrix Q such that B = [Q^(-1)]AQ.


A and B are similar when thought of as complex matricies, so they represent the same linear transformation on C2 for appropriately chosen bases, and share many other properties:

same trace, same determinant, same characteristic equation , same eigenvalues.


If I take Q = (1/2)(P + P bar) (the "real part" of P),
then I can show QB = AQ, and so B = [Q^(-1)]AQ if Q is invertible, but this Q may not be invertible.

I also noticed that each of A and B may be triangularized (since each of A and B has an eigenvalue), but I don't know where to go from there...
 
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You know that P is invertible, right?
Then if Q = 1/2(P + P*), you can show that det Q = 1/2(det P + (det P)*) so if det P is non-zero, then so is det Q and you are done.
 
What if det P = i. Then det P + (det P)* = 0 (I'm assuming that x* means the complex conjugate of x). Also, if each entry of P is pure imaginary,then P + P* = 0.

I was unable to derive the formula det Q = 1/2(det P + (det P)*. Computing det Q explicitly in terms of the entries in P I got det Q = 1/2(det P + (det P)* + a) where a is a possibly nonzero real number.
 
Think more simpler.

How about [itex]Q = \alpha P[/itex] for any real nonzero [itex]\alpha[/itex]?
 
Let [tex]X[/tex] and [tex]Y[/tex] be real and imaginary parts of [tex]P[/tex] (take the real and imaginary parts of each entry), so [tex]P= X+ iY[/tex].

We can rewrite the equation [tex]B = P^{-1}A P[/tex] as [tex]PB = AP[/tex], or, using the above notation [tex](X+iY)B = A(X+iY)[/tex].

Comparing real and imaginary parts we get that [tex]X B = A X[/tex] and [tex]Y B = A Y[/tex]. Therefore [tex](X+\alpha Y)B = A(X+\alpha Y)[/tex] for all real (and complex) [tex]\alpha[/tex].

So, we prove the statement we only need to find a real [tex]\alpha[/tex], such that the matrix [tex]Q:= X + \alpha Y[/tex] is invertible.
To see that it is possible, consider a function [tex]f(z) = \operatorname{det} (X+ zY)[/tex]. If all matrices are [tex]n\times n[/tex], it is a polynomial of degree at most [tex]n[/tex].

We know that [tex]f(i) \ne 0[/tex] (because [tex]P[/tex] is invertible), so [tex]f(z)[/tex] is not identically zero. Therefore it has at most n roots, so any [tex]\alpha[/tex] avoiding these roots works.
 

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