Prove False: n\geq a\Rightarrow n!\geq a^n

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The discussion centers on the false statement that if \( n \geq a \) then \( n! \geq a^n \) for \( n \in \mathbb{N} - \{0\} \). The initial proof by induction fails when tested with specific values, such as \( n=3 \) and \( a=2 \), leading to the contradiction \( 6 \geq 8 \). The mistake lies in incorrectly applying induction by treating \( n \) as a variable across all integers rather than a specific integer. The correct approach requires using a fixed hypothesis for induction, either ordinary or strong, to validate the inequality.

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I will prove the false statement, that n\geq a\Rightarrow n!\geq a^n, n\in \mathbb{N}-\left \{ 0 \right \} with induction

For n=1 1\geq a\Rightarrow 1!\geq a^1\Rightarrow 1 \geq a which is true.

Suppose that n\geq a\Rightarrow n!\geq a^n, n\in \mathbb{N}-\left \{ 0 \right \}

Then,
n\geq a\Rightarrow (n+1)!\geq nn!\geq aa^n=a^{n+1} which yields that n+1\geq a\Rightarrow(n+1)!\geq a^{n+1}

Therefore, n\geq a\Rightarrow n!\geq a^n
But for n=3,a=2 using the inequality we just proved 3\geq 2\Rightarrow3!\geq 2^3\Leftrightarrow 6\geq 8 Impossible!. Where is my mistake?

[EDIT] Don't bother answering. I have highlighted the mistake I made that rendered the inequality invalid for a greater than 1
 
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3.1415926535 said:
Suppose that n\geq a\Rightarrow n!\geq a^n, n\in \mathbb{N}-\left \{ 0 \right \}

That's not the hypothesis used in induction.

Ordinary induction would use the hypothesis:
n!\geq a^n where we think of n as a particular integer, not as "all integers".

and you would have to prove (n+1)! \geq a^{n+1}

So-called "strong induction" would use the hypothesis:
For each integer i: 0 < i \leq n , i! \geq a^i

and you would still have to prove (n+1)! \geq a^{n+1}
 


Stephen Tashi said:
That's not the hypothesis used in induction.

Ordinary induction would use the hypothesis:
n!\geq a^n where we think of n as a particular integer, not as "all integers".

and you would have to prove (n+1)! \geq a^{n+1}

So-called "strong induction" would use the hypothesis:
For each integer i: 0 < i \leq n , i! \geq a^i

and you would still have to prove (n+1)! \geq a^{n+1}

I am sorry, I messed up with latex. That was not my hypothesis...
 


I was having trouble too. The world will probably end because of clerical errors.
 


The problem is that n+1 \geq a does not imply that n \geq a which you seem to have used.
 


The basic problem seems to be that allowed values of a increase with n, while induction would work only if a is constant.
 

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