Prove G is Closed: Continuous f, Hausdorff Y

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The problem involves the function f: X → Y and its graph G, defined as G = {(x, f(x)) | x ∈ X}. The task is to demonstrate that G is closed in the product space X x Y, given that f is continuous and Y is Hausdorff.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of G as a subset of the product space and question the implications of points not in G. Some suggest starting by showing that the complement of G is open, while others emphasize the importance of the Hausdorff property in forming neighborhoods around points.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various approaches to demonstrate the closed nature of G. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of neighborhoods and the continuity of f, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method.

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There is a suggestion to consider X and Y as metric spaces, which may influence the discussion on sequences and their properties within the graph of f.

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Let f: X \rightarrow Y be a function. The graph of f is a subset of X x Y given by G = {(x,f(x) | x \in X }. Show that if f is continuous and Y is Hausdorff, then G is closed in X x Y.

Any tips on how to start?
Is it saying that f: X \rightarrow Y = G ?
 
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Um no, it's asking whether G is closed, so you start in the obvious manner: show (X x Y) - G is open. Pick a point (x,y) in (X x Y) - G and show that there exists a neighborhood of (x,y) that is contained in (X x Y) - G.
 
It can't be saying something like that, considering G is a subset of the product space (how can that be equal to a function?). All it means is any element of G [which, as a subset of the product space, has the form (x,y)] satisfies y=f(x), and any element in X x Y not in G does not satisfy this.

Although there are a few ways to show this, I will get you started on the way I think is most fundamental: assume there is an (x,y) in X x Y not in G. As I stated above this means y =/= f(x). Using the fact that Y is Hausdorff, you can form disjoint neighborhoods U and V around y and f(x), respectively. Try to use this to show that (X x Y) - G is open, and thus that G is closed. (Hint: we haven't used the continuity of f yet)
 
Aureolux said:
It can't be saying something like that, considering G is a subset of the product space (how can that be equal to a function?). All it means is any element of G [which, as a subset of the product space, has the form (x,y)] satisfies y=f(x), and any element in X x Y not in G does not satisfy this.

Although there are a few ways to show this, I will get you started on the way I think is most fundamental: assume there is an (x,y) in X x Y not in G. As I stated above this means y =/= f(x). Using the fact that Y is Hausdorff, you can form disjoint neighborhoods U and V around y and f(x), respectively. Try to use this to show that (X x Y) - G is open, and thus that G is closed. (Hint: we haven't used the continuity of f yet)

2 points x and f(x) and not just one (x,y) ?
 
Damascus Road said:
Let f: X \rightarrow Y be a function. The graph of f is a subset of X x Y given by G = {(x,f(x) | x \in X }. Show that if f is continuous and Y is Hausdorff, then G is closed in X x Y.

Any tips on how to start?
Is it saying that f: X \rightarrow Y = G ?

For starter why not let X and Y be metric spaces? Then a Cauchy sequence inside the graph of f projects to Cauchy sequence in X and Y.
 

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