Prove Holomorphic on C: Continuity and Differentiability

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The discussion revolves around proving that a function \( f : \mathbb{C} \to \mathbb{C} \), which is continuous everywhere and holomorphic except on the interval [2, 5] on the real axis, must be holomorphic on all of \( \mathbb{C} \). Participants explore the implications of continuity and the conditions under which holomorphicity can be extended to the problematic interval.

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  • Some participants suggest using Morera's theorem as a potential approach. Others express uncertainty about this theorem and seek alternative methods. There are discussions about finding a holomorphic function \( g \) that agrees with \( f \) outside the interval [2, 5] and questions about how to define \( g \) on that interval. The concept of the Integral Transform Theorem is introduced, with participants questioning how to adapt it to show agreement between \( f \) and \( g \) within the specified region.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various approaches and questioning the validity of their reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Morera's theorem and the Integral Transform Theorem, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to prove the holomorphicity of \( f \) on the interval [2, 5].

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Participants note the challenge of proving holomorphicity on the interval [2, 5] given that \( f \) is not known to be holomorphic there. The discussion also highlights the need for a careful definition of the region of integration and the implications of continuity in the context of complex analysis.

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Suppose f : \mathbb{C}\to \mathbb{C} is continuous everywhere, and is holomorphic at every point except possibly the points in the interval [2, 5] on the real axis. Prove that f must be holomorphic at every point of C.

How can I go from f being holomorphic every except that interval to showing it is holomorphic at that interval? I am assuming it has to be due to continuity.

But there are continuous functions that aren't differentiable every where.
 
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One approach is to use Morera's theorem.
 
morphism said:
One approach is to use Morera's theorem.

I haven't learned that Theorem yet. Is there another approach.
 
Yes, but it's tricky. The key idea is that if you can find a holomorphic function g \colon \mathbb C \to \mathbb C that agrees with f everywhere except possibly on [2,5], then g must in fact agree with f on [2,5] too (why?), so f must be holomorphic on all of C because g is. But now, how does one find such a g? Do you have any ideas?
 
morphism said:
Yes, but it's tricky. The key idea is that if you can find a holomorphic function g \colon \mathbb C \to \mathbb C that agrees with f everywhere except possibly on [2,5], then g must in fact agree with f on [2,5] too (why?), so f must be holomorphic on all of C because g is. But now, how does one find such a g? Do you have any ideas?

This is just a guess but let g be a primitive of f.
 
That's not a bad idea. Could you spell it out a bit more?
 
morphism said:
That's not a bad idea. Could you spell it out a bit more?

If g is a primitive of f, then g' = f. As long as f is on an open set which is the case here.
 
But how is g defined on [2,5]?

I have to run so I'll leave you with a hint:

Let C = \{ z \in \mathbb C \mid |z-3.5| < 1 \} and define g(z) = \frac{1}{2\pi i} \int_C \frac{f(w)}{w-z} dw in C. Try to show that f and g agree off of [2,5].
 
morphism said:
But how is g defined on [2,5]?

I have to run so I'll leave you with a hint:

Let C = \{ z \in \mathbb C \mid |z-3.5| < 1 \} and define g(z) = \frac{1}{2\pi i} \int_C \frac{f(w)}{w-z} dw in C. Try to show that f and g agree off of [2,5].

I am not sure why you center your circle at 3.5.

With our definition of g, I have a theorem from class that show f and g agree but it was only stated for one point not a set of points. We call it the Integral Transform Theorem:

Let \gamma be any path and g:\gamma\to\mathbb{C} be continuous. Define for all z \notin \gamma
G(z) = \int_{\gamma}\frac{g(u)}{u-z}du.
Then G(z) is analytic at every point z_0\notin\gamma.

Then our corollary to it
If f:\gamma\to\mathbb{C} is holomorphic and \gamma is inside a disc on which f is holomorphic and which \gamma is a circle, then for all z we get
$$
f(z) = \frac{1}{2\pi i}\int_{\gamma}\frac{f(u)}{u-z}du
$$
and so f is analytic for all z inside gamma.
 
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fauboca said:
I am not sure why you center your circle at 3.5.
The radius should have been 1.5 and not 1. I basically wanted a circle centered on the real axis with [2,5] as a diameter. (Now that I think about it a bit more, the radius should probably be 1.5+0.01 (the small increment is to ensure that [2,5] is contained in the interior of C). But this doesn't matter much.)

With our definition of g, I have a theorem from class that show f and g agree but it was only stated for one point not a set of points. We call it the Integral Transform Theorem:

Let \gamma be any path and g:\gamma\to\mathbb{C} be continuous. Define for all z \notin \gamma
G(z) = \int_{\gamma}\frac{g(u)}{u-z}du.
Then G(z) is analytic at every point z_0\notin\gamma.

Then our corollary to it
If f:\gamma\to\mathbb{C} is holomorphic and \gamma is inside a disc on which f is holomorphic and which \gamma is a circle, then for all z we get
$$
f(z) = \frac{1}{2\pi i}\int_{\gamma}\frac{f(u)}{u-z}du
$$
and so f is analytic for all z inside gamma.
You will need to modify the corollary a bit to conclude that f and g agree for all points inside C but not on [2,5].
 
  • #11
morphism said:
The radius should have been 1.5 and not 1. I basically wanted a circle centered on the real axis with with [2,5] as a diameter. (Now that I think about it a bit more, the radius should probably be 1.5+0.01 (the small increment is to ensure that [2,5] is contained in the interior of C).)You will need to modify the corollary a bit to conclude that f and g agree for all points inside C but not on [2,5].

I am not sure how to alter the corollary besides saying we can run this process for all real numbers in [2,5] where each f* agrees with f.

Also, we were told today that we have proven Morera's Theorem but just didn't name it before. So we could use that as well then.
 
  • #12
fauboca said:
I am not sure how to alter the corollary besides saying we can run this process for all real numbers in [2,5] where each f* agrees with f.
The corollary requires f to be holomorphic inside \gamma. But if \gamma=C, we run into problems, because we don't know if f is holomorphic on [2,5].
 
  • #13
morphism said:
The corollary requires f to be holomorphic inside \gamma. But if \gamma=C, we run into problems, because we don't know if f is holomorphic on [2,5].

For now, can we say by the Integral Transform Theorem, we know g and f agree on all the points out side of C?

I am still not sure then how to get the points inside C but not on [2,5]
 
  • #14
Let's not even concern ourselves with points outside of C. All that matters is stuff inside of C.

The problem with your corollary is that it requires that \gamma be a circle, but really any simple closed curve works.
 
  • #15
morphism said:
Let's not even concern ourselves with points outside of C. All that matters is stuff inside of C.

The problem with your corollary is that it requires that \gamma be a circle, but really any simple closed curve works.

The definition of C you provided is a circle. Since \mathbb{C} is open, there is an open disc around C. So using that definition, we would have inside C is analytic.
 
  • #16
fauboca said:
The definition of C you provided is a circle. Since \mathbb{C} is open, there is an open disc around C. So using that definition, we would have inside C is analytic.
Yes, g is analytic inside C. But we don't know that f is. And your corollary doesn't show that f=g inside C (but off of [2,5]), which is really what we want to show. So the corollary has to be tweaked to show that f=g inside C (but off of [2,5]).
 
  • #17
morphism said:
Yes, g is analytic inside C. But we don't know that f is. And your corollary doesn't show that f=g inside C (but off of [2,5]), which is really what we want to show. So the corollary has to be tweaked to show that f=g inside C (but off of [2,5]).

Does it have to do with the winding number?
 
  • #18
fauboca said:
Does it have to do with the winding number?
Not really. It has to do with allowing more general \gamma instead of just circles.

Like I said in an earlier post, this approach is tricky. Morera's theorem is definitely the way to go here.
 
  • #19
We have a theorem we call our q-theorem.

Suppose q(z) is any function that is holomorphic on a disc U except at a finite number of points in U, and assume the \lim_{z\to\xi_j}(z-\xi_j)q(z) = 0. Where \xi_j are those finite points. Then q has a primitive and is analytic inside the disc.
$$
q(z) =\frac{f(z)-f(z)}{z-a}
$$

But this only for a finite number of points and I have an infinite number.
 
  • #20
Let x\in[2,5]. Then
<br /> g(b) = \frac{1}{2\pi i}\int_C\frac{f(u)}{u-b}du,<br />
i.e. g = f for all b\neq x where x is a removable singularity.
Now g is holomorphic everywhere inside C so g is the extension of f to the interior of C.
Then let g=f on \mathbb{C} too.
 
  • #21
fauboca said:
Now g is holomorphic everywhere inside C so g is the extension of f to the interior of C.
No - you still need to show that g(z)=f(z) for every z in C\[2,5].
 
  • #22
morphism said:
No - you still need to show that g(z)=f(z) for every z in C\[2,5].

I don't know what to do.
 
  • #23
fauboca said:
I don't know what to do.
You're better off just abandoning this approach and using Morera's theorem for a more elegant solution.

But for the sake of completeness, this is how we could've wrapped up. Let \gamma_\epsilon be a small \epsilon-band around [2,5] fully contained in C (here I'm assuming the radius of C is > 1.5). Orient \gamma_\epsilon clockwise and C counterclockwise so that
f(z) = \int_{\gamma_\epsilon} \frac{f(w)}{w-z} dw + \int_C \frac{f(w)}{w-z} dw = \int_{\gamma_\epsilon} \frac{f(w)}{w-z} dw + g(z) for all z in between \gamma_\epsilon and C. This holds for all small \epsilon, so by letting \epsilon \to 0 and using the continuity of f, we see that the the integral over \gamma_\epsilon in the above equations goes to zero, and consequently f(z)=g(z) for all z in C\[2,5].
 
  • #24
morphism said:
You're better off just abandoning this approach and using Morera's theorem for a more elegant solution.

But for the sake of completeness, this is how we could've wrapped up. Let \gamma_\epsilon be a small \epsilon-band around [2,5] fully contained in C (here I'm assuming the radius of C is > 1.5). Orient \gamma_\epsilon clockwise and C counterclockwise so that
f(z) = \int_{\gamma_\epsilon} \frac{f(w)}{w-z} dw + \int_C \frac{f(w)}{w-z} dw = \int_{\gamma_\epsilon} \frac{f(w)}{w-z} dw + g(z) for all z in between \gamma_\epsilon and C. This holds for all small \epsilon, so by letting \epsilon \to 0 and using the continuity of f, we see that the the integral over \gamma_\epsilon in the above equations goes to zero, and consequently f(z)=g(z) for all z in C\[2,5].

How is it done via Morera?

Doesn't Morera only say we have a primitive and closed curves are 0. How does that make it an easier approach?
 
  • #25
Morera tells you that f must be holomorphic in a region G if \int_\gamma f = 0 for all closed curves \gamma in G. The converse is of course Cauchy's theorem.

So you just need to show that \int_\gamma f = 0 for certain curves \gamma.
 
  • #26
morphism said:
Morera tells you that f must be holomorphic in a region G if \int_\gamma f = 0 for all closed curves \gamma in G. The converse is of course Cauchy's theorem.

So you just need to show that \int_\gamma f = 0 for certain curves \gamma.

How is that shown?
 
  • #27
Try to think it over for a bit...
 
  • #28
morphism said:
Try to think it over for a bit...

By Goursat's rectangle method?
 
  • #29
fauboca said:
By Goursat's rectangle method?
Yes, something like that would work.
 
  • #30
morphism said:
Yes, something like that would work.

I am still lost on how to do this though.
 

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