Prove limit of this recursive sequence

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The limit of the recursive sequence defined by s1=1 and sn+1=sqrt(sn+1) converges to 1/2(1+sqrt(5)). The proof involves demonstrating that the sequence is increasing and bounded above, leading to the conclusion that it converges to a real number. By applying limit properties, specifically lim(sn+1)=sqrt(s+1), and recognizing the continuity of the square root function, the limit can be derived as the root of the equation x^2 - x - 1.

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Homework Statement



Let s1=1 and for n>=1 let sn+1=sqrt(sn+1)

Prove that the limit of this sequence is 1/2(1+Sqrt(5))

Homework Equations


Show that there exist an N for every \epsilon> 0, such that n>N implies

|Sn-1/2(1+Sqrt(5))|< \epsilon


The Attempt at a Solution


I can prove that s is a increasing sequence bounded above thus s converges to a real number, but how to manipulate the terms inside the absolutely value takes a little more than conventional wisdom.

At first we realize that: sn+12 = sn+1, and since we are dealing with an increasing sequence, we can find a bound for sn, but can't see how that's useful
 
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If sn has a limit L, then L has to satisfy L=sqrt(L+1), doesn't it?
 
thanks, seems exactly what I needed. To reach that conclusion, can I take the following steps:

Let lim sn = s

Since lim (An + Bn)= lim An + lim Bn then lim (Sn + 1) = s + 1

Then use an similar argument for the square root to obtain lim sn+1 = Sqrt(s + 1)

and since lim sn = lim sn+1, s = sqrt(s+1)
 
vrbke1007kkr said:
thanks, seems exactly what I needed. To reach that conclusion, can I take the following steps:

Let lim sn = s

Since lim (An + Bn)= lim An + lim Bn then lim (Sn + 1) = s + 1

Then use an similar argument for the square root to obtain lim sn+1 = Sqrt(s + 1)

and since lim sn = lim sn+1, s = sqrt(s+1)

Sure. Taking the limit of s_n+1=sqrt(sn+1) gives you L=sqrt(L+1).
 
If this is for a real analysis course you should probably justify that such a limit must satisfy this equation by mentioning the fact that sqrt(x) is continuous. This is the 'similar' argument you are thinking of when you look at the inference "lim (An + Bn)= lim An + lim Bn then lim (Sn + 1) = s + 1".

sqrt(x) and x+1 are continuous.
 
ZioX said:
If this is for a real analysis course you should probably justify that such a limit must satisfy this equation by mentioning the fact that sqrt(x) is continuous. This is the 'similar' argument you are thinking of when you look at the inference "lim (An + Bn)= lim An + lim Bn then lim (Sn + 1) = s + 1".

sqrt(x) and x+1 are continuous.

Thanks :) good thing we already proved the latter in a previous theorem so we can use it freely
 
Try using the quadratic equation to get your limit. :-)

Equivalently, show that your limit is the root of the equation x^2 - x -1.
 
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ZioX said:
If this is for a real analysis course you should probably justify that such a limit must satisfy this equation by mentioning the fact that sqrt(x) is continuous. This is the 'similar' argument you are thinking of when you look at the inference "lim (An + Bn)= lim An + lim Bn then lim (Sn + 1) = s + 1".

sqrt(x) and x+1 are continuous.

I do not think continuity is need here. These results are simple limit theorems. Besides, continuity usually comes after limit of sequences so I doubt it should be used here.
 

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