MHB Prove Natural Numbers Subset Property

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The discussion centers on proving the subset property for natural numbers, specifically the equivalence that for any natural numbers n and m, n is a subset of m if and only if n is an element of m or n equals m. Participants explore the implications of the definitions of subset and element, noting that the left-to-right implication does not hold for arbitrary sets but does for natural numbers. They suggest using induction on m to establish the proof, particularly focusing on cases where n is not a subset of m. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in notation and definitions to avoid confusion in mathematical arguments. Overall, the participants are working through the proof's intricacies, seeking to solidify their understanding of the relationships between subsets and elements in the context of natural numbers.
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I got it.. Thank you very much! (Happy)
 

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