Prove non adiabatic reversible expansion and ΔS

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The discussion centers on proving that the transformation of one mole of a monatomic ideal gas from 0.00°C and 2.00 atm to -40.0°C and 0.400 atm is not an adiabatic reversible expansion. The calculation of the change in entropy (ΔS) is performed using the equation ΔS=nC(p,m)ln(Vf/Vi), resulting in ΔS=30.15 J/K. The solution emphasizes the necessity of considering both pressure and temperature changes in addition to volume changes to accurately calculate ΔS.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the ideal gas law (pV=nRT)
  • Knowledge of thermodynamic equations for entropy (ΔS)
  • Familiarity with concepts of adiabatic processes
  • Basic principles of monatomic ideal gases
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  • Study the derivation of ΔS for constant pressure and constant temperature processes
  • Learn about the implications of non-adiabatic processes in thermodynamics
  • Explore the relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature in thermodynamic transformations
  • Investigate additional thermodynamic equations relevant to ideal gases
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This discussion is beneficial for students studying thermodynamics, particularly those focusing on ideal gas behavior, entropy calculations, and the principles of reversible processes.

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Homework Statement


One mole of a monatomic ideal gas is transformed from 0.00°C and 2.00 atm to
-40.0°C and 0.400 atm. Show that this is NOT an adiabatic reversible expansion and
calculate ΔS for the change. (Hint: you will need to consider a reversible path that
includes a constant pressure step and a constant temperature step.)

Homework Equations


ΔU=q+w
pV=nRT
ΔS=nC(p,m)ln(Vf/Vi)

The Attempt at a Solution


For adiabatic reversible expansion, q=0, so i have to show that q= a number.
Found Vi= 11.2L and Vf=47.8L via ideal gas law

ΔS=(1mol)(5/2(8.314J/Kmol)ln(47.2/11.2)
=30.15J/K
 
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Hi Nick_273! :smile:

I'm afraid it does not suffice to calculate ΔS for the change in volume.
You also need to account for the change in either pressure or temperature.

There's a few more relevant equations that you could derive, but you can also find them here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_thermodynamic_equations

In particular you can find the equations for ΔS here when p is constant, but also when T is constant.
You need these 2 to follow the hint.
 

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