MHB Prove Schwarz's & Triangle Ineqs for Inf Seqs: Abs Conv

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The discussion focuses on proving Schwarz's and the triangle inequalities for infinite sequences under the condition that the sums of squares of two sequences converge. It is established that absolute convergence of the series can be shown without relying solely on the Schwarz inequality, using the inequality \(2|a_nb_n| \leq |a_n|^2 + |b_n|^2\). Participants explore the implications of these inequalities, discussing how to estimate the sums and the conditions under which they hold. The conversation also touches on the relationship between the summability of products of terms and the sums of their squares. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of understanding the convergence properties of infinite sequences in mathematical analysis.
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Prove the Schwarz's and the triangle inequalities for infinite sequences:
If
$$
\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2 < \infty\quad\text{and}\quad
\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2 < \infty
$$
then
$\sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty} a_nb_n$ converges absolutely.

To show this, wouldn't I need to know that the |a_n| is bounded not the sum of squares?
 
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To see the series is absolutely convergent doesn't need Schwarz inequality, just write that $2|a_nb_n|\leq |a_n|^2+|b_n|^2$.

But we can use Schwarz inequality to get an estimation of the sum, using it first for finite sums, then taking the limit.
 
girdav said:
To see the series is absolutely convergent doesn't need Schwarz inequality, just write that $2|a_nb_n|\leq |a_n|^2+|b_n|^2$.

But we can use Schwarz inequality to get an estimation of the sum, using it first for finite sums, then taking the limit.

Should $|a_nb_n|^2$?
 
Where?
 
girdav said:
Where?

In your post.
 
Indeed, $|a_nb_n|^2$ will be summable, but here we show more (that $|a_nb_n|$ is summable). I think the inequality I wrote as stated. Did you try to show it and use it?
 
We have that $|a_n - b_n|^2 \leq |a_n|^2 + |b_n|^2 - 2|a_nb_n| \geq 0$, i.e. $|a_n|^2 + |b_n|^2 \geq 2|a_nb_n|$.
Let $\sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2 = \alpha < \infty$ and $\sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2 = \beta < \infty$.
Then
$$
\alpha + \beta \geq 2\sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|\iff \sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|\leq\frac{\alpha + \beta}{2} < \infty.
$$
 
Now I am trying to show this for the same problem.
$$
\left|\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}a_nb_n\right|^2\leq \left(\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2\right)\left(\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2\right)
$$$$
\left|\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}a_nb_n\right|^2\leq\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|^2
$$

Is it this
$$
\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|^2 = \sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2
$$
or
$$
\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|^2 \leq \sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2
$$
 
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The latter (actually, a nice exercise is to show that we have the former if and only if we can find a constant $\lambda$ such that for each $n$, $a_n=\lambda b_n$.
 

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