Prove Schwarz's & Triangle Ineqs for Inf Seqs: Abs Conv

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The discussion focuses on proving Schwarz's inequality and the triangle inequality for infinite sequences, specifically under the conditions that the sums of the squares of two sequences, \( \sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2 \) and \( \sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2 \), are finite. It is established that the series \( \sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty} a_nb_n \) converges absolutely. The participants clarify that while the absolute convergence does not require Schwarz's inequality, it can be used for estimation purposes. The discussion also emphasizes the relationship between the sums and the inequalities involved.

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Prove the Schwarz's and the triangle inequalities for infinite sequences:
If
$$
\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2 < \infty\quad\text{and}\quad
\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2 < \infty
$$
then
$\sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty} a_nb_n$ converges absolutely.

To show this, wouldn't I need to know that the |a_n| is bounded not the sum of squares?
 
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To see the series is absolutely convergent doesn't need Schwarz inequality, just write that $2|a_nb_n|\leq |a_n|^2+|b_n|^2$.

But we can use Schwarz inequality to get an estimation of the sum, using it first for finite sums, then taking the limit.
 
girdav said:
To see the series is absolutely convergent doesn't need Schwarz inequality, just write that $2|a_nb_n|\leq |a_n|^2+|b_n|^2$.

But we can use Schwarz inequality to get an estimation of the sum, using it first for finite sums, then taking the limit.

Should $|a_nb_n|^2$?
 
Where?
 
girdav said:
Where?

In your post.
 
Indeed, $|a_nb_n|^2$ will be summable, but here we show more (that $|a_nb_n|$ is summable). I think the inequality I wrote as stated. Did you try to show it and use it?
 
We have that $|a_n - b_n|^2 \leq |a_n|^2 + |b_n|^2 - 2|a_nb_n| \geq 0$, i.e. $|a_n|^2 + |b_n|^2 \geq 2|a_nb_n|$.
Let $\sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2 = \alpha < \infty$ and $\sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2 = \beta < \infty$.
Then
$$
\alpha + \beta \geq 2\sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|\iff \sum\limits_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|\leq\frac{\alpha + \beta}{2} < \infty.
$$
 
Now I am trying to show this for the same problem.
$$
\left|\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}a_nb_n\right|^2\leq \left(\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2\right)\left(\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2\right)
$$$$
\left|\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}a_nb_n\right|^2\leq\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|^2
$$

Is it this
$$
\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|^2 = \sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2
$$
or
$$
\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_nb_n|^2 \leq \sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|a_n|^2\sum_{n = -\infty}^{\infty}|b_n|^2
$$
 
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The latter (actually, a nice exercise is to show that we have the former if and only if we can find a constant $\lambda$ such that for each $n$, $a_n=\lambda b_n$.
 

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