Prove that f(x)=cos(narccos(x)) is polynomial

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The discussion revolves around proving that the function f(x) = cos(n * arccos(x)) is a polynomial for all natural numbers n. Participants explore mathematical induction as a method for this proof, examining both the base case and the induction step.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a mathematical induction approach, starting with the base case for n=1 and assuming the statement holds for n, then attempting to prove it for n+1.
  • Another participant questions the assumption that sin(n * arccos(x)) * sin(arccos(x)) is a polynomial, comparing it to an arbitrary assumption about divisibility.
  • There is a suggestion to revise the induction hypothesis to include both f_n(x) = cos(n * arccos(x)) and g_n(x) = sin(n * arccos(x)) * sin(arccos(x)) as polynomials.
  • A later reply provides a trigonometric identity involving cos((n+1) * arccos(x)), suggesting a relationship that could be useful in the induction step.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of assuming certain functions are polynomials. There is no consensus on the proof strategy or the assumptions required for the induction hypothesis.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for further clarification on the polynomial nature of sine functions involved and the implications of their assumptions. The discussion remains open regarding the validity of the induction hypothesis and the steps needed to complete the proof.

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So, I've got an assignment to prove that f(x)=\cos{(n \cdot \arccos{x})} is a polynomial for \forall n \in \mathbb{N}. Also, we were suggested to use mathematical induction. So, I've tried:

Base step: n=1 \implies f(x)=\cos{(\arccos{x})}=x
Assumption step: f(x)=\cos{(n \cdot \arccos{x})}, \forall n \in \mathbb{N}
Induction step: f(x)=\cos{((n+1) \cdot \arccos{x})}=\cos{(n \arccos{x}+\arccos{x})}=\cos{(n \arccos{x})}\cos{( \arccos{x})}-\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})}=f(x) \cdot x -\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})}

And I don't know what to do with sine.
 
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karseme said:
So, I've got an assignment to prove that f(x)=\cos{(n \cdot \arccos{x})} is a polynomial for \forall n \in \mathbb{N}. Also, we were suggested to use mathematical induction. So, I've tried:

Base step: n=1 \implies f(x)=\cos{(\arccos{x})}=x
Assumption step: f(x)=\cos{(n \cdot \arccos{x})}, \forall n \in \mathbb{N}
Induction step: f(x)=\cos{((n+1) \cdot \arccos{x})}=\cos{(n \arccos{x}+\arccos{x})}=\cos{(n \arccos{x})}\cos{( \arccos{x})}-\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})}=f(x) \cdot x -\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})}

And I don't know what to do with sine.

Hi karseme! ;)

How about assuming that $\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})}$ is a polynomial in $x$? (Wondering)

\begin{aligned}\sin{((n+1) \arccos{x})}\sin{(\arccos{x})}
&= \big(\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\cos{(\arccos{x})} + \cos{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{(\arccos{x})} \big)\sin{( \arccos{x})} \\
&= x \sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})} + \cos{(n \arccos{x})}\sin^2{(\arccos{x})} \\
&= x \sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})} + \cos{(n \arccos{x})}(1 - \cos^2{(\arccos{x})})
\end{aligned}
 
I like Serena said:
Hi karseme! ;)

How about assuming that $\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})}$ is a polynomial in $x$? (Wondering)

\begin{aligned}\sin{((n+1) \arccos{x})}\sin{(\arccos{x})}
&= \big(\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\cos{(\arccos{x})} + \cos{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{(\arccos{x})} \big)\sin{( \arccos{x})} \\
&= x \sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})} + \cos{(n \arccos{x})}\sin^2{(\arccos{x})} \\
&= x \sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})} + \cos{(n \arccos{x})}(1 - \cos^2{(\arccos{x})})
\end{aligned}

But, how can we assume that? It's like let's assume that every number is divisible by 3 for the sake of the convenicence. I don't see how can we assume that here. Maybe it is polynomial, I don't know. Anyway what can we achieve by assuming that, you're still left with $ x \sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})}$. And who says that $\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})}$ is a polynomial. How to prove that.
 
karseme said:
But, how can we assume that? It's like let's assume that every number is divisible by 3 for the sake of the convenicence. I don't see how can we assume that here. Maybe it is polynomial, I don't know. Anyway what can we achieve by assuming that, you're still left with $ x \sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \arccos{x})}$. And who says that $\sin{(n \arccos{x})}\sin{( \ar
ccos{x})}$ is a polynomial. How to prove that.

Let's revise the induction hypothesis.
Let's make it: $f_n(x)=\cos(n \arccos x)$ is polynomial AND $g_n(x)=\sin(n \arccos x)\sin(\arccos x)$ is polynomial.
Is it true for a base case?
What will the induction step be?
 
$$\cos[(n+1)\arccos(x)]=\cos(n\arccos(x))\cos(\arccos(x))-\sin(n\arccos(x))\sin(\arccos(x))$$

$$=x\cos(n\arccos(x))+\frac{\cos[(n+1)\arccos(x)]-\cos[(n-1)\arccos(x)]}{2}$$

$$\cos[(n+1)\arccos(x)]=2x\cos(n\arccos(x))-\cos[(n-1)\arccos(x)]$$

I believe that's sufficient.
 

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