Prove that x^n-y^n is divisible by x-y

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The discussion revolves around proving that \(x^n - y^n\) is divisible by \(x - y\) using mathematical induction. Participants are exploring the nature of polynomial expressions and the properties of divisibility in the context of algebra.

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  • Participants discuss starting the proof with base cases such as \(n = 1\) and \(n = 2\), and consider how to extend the proof to \(n = k + 1\). There are questions about the validity of certain steps in the induction process and the use of polynomial expressions.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the proof, emphasizing the need to clarify assumptions and the structure of the proof. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations and methods, including the use of polynomial long division and the geometric series.

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Participants note the importance of adhering to forum rules regarding attempts at solutions and the need for clarity in mathematical notation. There are also mentions of specific algebraic manipulations and the necessity of understanding the underlying principles of polynomial factors.

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I don't know how to prove by mathematical induction that x^n-y^n is divisible by x-y . . . Can you show me step by step? . . .Greetings!
 
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Sorry, but the rules of PF state clearly that you must make an attempt at solution.

As to proofs by induction, start with n = 1, 2, 3, etc. and see if the resulting polynomial is divisible by x-y. If you don't run into a contradiction along the line, try making a general statement for any integer n.
 
Code:
[itex]((x^n-y^n)/x-y)=>\frac {x^1-y^1} {x-y}=>\frac {x-y} {x-y} OK [/itex]

Now, n= k
Code:
[itex]x^k-y^k = m(x-y) ; [/itex] where m is a positive integer.

Now, my question is n=k+1 where,
Code:
[itex]x^k+1+-y^k+1= ?[/itex]

I don´t understand the next step, i saw some explanations on internet but i don't understand ! Help me please. :s
 
When you say "Divisible by" x-y, that means that (x-y) is a polynomial factor, not exactly that ##x^k - y^k = m(x-y)## where m is a positive integer, but that m is a polynomial.
Note that ##x^2-y^2= (x-y)(x+y)## and ##(x^3 - y^3) = (x-y)(x^2 +xy +y^2) ##.
 
mxam said:
Code:
[itex]((x^n-y^n)/x-y)=>\frac {x^1-y^1} {x-y}=>\frac {x-y} {x-y} OK [/itex]

Now, n= k
Code:
[itex]x^k-y^k = m(x-y) ; [/itex] where m is a positive integer.

Now, my question is n=k+1 where,
Code:
[itex]x^k+1+-y^k+1= ?[/itex]

I don´t understand the next step, i saw some explanations on internet but i don't understand ! Help me please. :s

Your Latex skills have let you down here. You need to use curly brackets { } to collect the right terms in the exponents.
Code:
[itex]x^{k+1}-y^{k+1}= ?[/itex]
 
Do you know the expression for the sum of a geometric sequence ? See http://www.regentsprep.org/regents/math/algtrig/atp2/geoseq.htm

ehild
 
SteamKing said:
Sorry, but the rules of PF state clearly that you must make an attempt at solution.
So noted, and dealt with.
 
I think that using the formula for the sum of a geometric sequence is the simplest way to do this but would NOT be a proof by induction.

mxam, write [tex]x^{k+ 1}- y^{k+1}[/tex] as [tex]x(x^k)- y(y^k)= x(x^k)- (y(x^k)- y(x^k))- y(y^k)= x^k(x- y)+ y(x^k- y^k)[/tex]
 
Are you allowed to use polynomial long division?
 
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Thanks for your answers. I saw a "clear" solution online, let me show you:

mxam said:
Code:
[itex]((x^n-y^n)/x-y)=>\frac {x^1-y^1} {x-y}=>\frac {x-y} {x-y} OK [/itex]

Now, n= k
Code:
[itex]x^k-y^k = m(x-y) ; [/itex] where m is a positive integer.

n=k+1
Code:
[itex]x^{k+1}-y^{k+1}[/itex]
Code:
[itex](x^1)(x^k)-(y^1)(y^k)[/itex]
Code:
[itex]x(x^k)-x(y^k)+x(y^k)-y(y^k)[/itex]

And later the solution. But I don't understand just 1 thing, why are using [itex]x(y^k)[/itex]? . . . where the origin for it? . . .

I appreciated your time. This is a old homework of Algebra, but is exercise unresolved, and now, i want to know the real way to resolve it. . .
 
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mxam said:
Thanks for your answers. I saw a "clear" solution online, let me show you:
mxam said:
Code:
[itex]((x^n-y^n)/x-y)=>\frac {x^1-y^1} {x-y}=>\frac {x-y} {x-y} OK [/itex]
Now, n= k
Code:
[itex]x^k-y^k = m(x-y) ; [/itex] where m is a positive integer.
n=k+1
Code:
[itex]x^{k+1}-y^{k+1}[/itex]
Code:
[itex](x^1)(x^k)-(y^1)(y^k)[/itex]
Code:
[itex]x(x^k)-x(y^k)+x(y^k)-y(y^k)[/itex]
And later the solution. But I don't understand just 1 thing, why are using [itex]x(y^k)[/itex]? . . . where the origin for it? . . .
I appreciated your time. This is a old homework of Algebra, but is exercise unresolved, and now, i want to know the real way to resolve it. . .
There are three things you need to do in an induction proof:
1. Show that the statement is true for some starting value of n, typically, but not always, n = 1.
2. Assume that the statement is true for n = k. This is called the induction hypothesis.
3. Using the induction hypothesis of step 2, show that the statement is true for n = k + 1.

In your work shown above, you established step 1 by showing that x1 - y1 is divisible by x - y. For step 2, it was not clear that you were assuming that xk - yk is divisible by x - y. Also, you are throwing in a lot of symbols, such as => ("implies") that aren't appropriate here. You should be using = to connect expressions that have the same value.

You didn't finish things by working through step 3. Another poster in this thread has already mentioned that you can't write xk - yk as a constant m times (x - y). You could write this as xk - yk = m(x)(x - y), where m(x) is a polynomial of degree k - 1.

Finally, you don't need to wrap [ code ] tags around your [ itex ] tags.
 
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mxam said:
Thanks for your answers. I saw a "clear" solution online, let me show you:...x(xk)−x(yk)+x(yk)−y(yk) And later the solution. But I don't understand just 1 thing, why are using x(yk)? . . . where the origin for it? . . .
It is always possible to add and subtract the same term to an expression. It is just a clever thing to do. You can arrange the expression so it is the sum of two terms, both divisible by x-y:
x(xk−yk)-yk(x-y).

ehild
 
  • #13
ehild said:
It is always possible to add and subtract the same term to an expression. It is just a clever thing to do. You can arrange the expression so it is the sum of two terms, both divisible by x-y:
x(xk−yk)-yk(x-y).

ehild

Thanks. . . .
 

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