Prove This, please -- particle moving with a uniform acceleration

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a small particle moving with uniform acceleration, covering distances X and Y in the first two equal and consecutive intervals of time t. The goal is to show that the acceleration a can be expressed as a = (Y - X) / t².

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the problem, particularly the meaning of covering distances X and Y in equal time intervals. Some suggest using equations of motion, while others express confusion about the setup and the implications of starting conditions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on relevant equations and interpretations. There is acknowledgment of different starting conditions and the need for clarity in the problem statement. Some participants are exploring various interpretations of the distances involved.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the initial conditions of the particle's motion, such as whether it starts from rest or with an initial velocity. Participants note that the problem's phrasing may lead to different interpretations.

VeeFlamesPhys
Messages
5
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Hi all. Please help me with this. A small particle moving with a uniform acceleration a covers a distances X and Y in the first two equal and consecutive intervals of time t. Show that a = Y-X/t².

Homework Equations


Acceleration is usually v-u/t i.e. rate of change of velocity with time.

The Attempt at a Solution


Since Y and X are distances, and t is time, and the unit for acceleration is m/s², I put two and two together. That was pretty easy, but I looked at the question properly and saw there was more to it than that, for instance, the 'first two equal and consecutive intervals of time t' I used different equations of motion such as s=ut+1/2at and v²=u²+2aS, but I kept getting stuck. Help, please!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
VeeFlamesPhys said:

Homework Statement



Hi all. Please help me with this. A small particle moving with a uniform acceleration a covers a distances X and Y in the first two equal and consecutive intervals of time t. Show that a = Y-X/t².

Homework Equations


Acceleration is usually v-u/t i.e. rate of change of velocity with time.

The Attempt at a Solution


Since Y and X are distances, and t is time, and the unit for acceleration is m/s², I put two and two together. That was pretty easy, but I looked at the question properly and saw there was more to it than that, for instance, the 'first two equal and consecutive intervals of time t' I used different equations of motion such as s=ut+1/2at and v²=u²+2aS, but I kept getting stuck. Help, please!

Suppose you start at x=0 and t=0 and accelerate uniformly at acceleration a. Then where are you at time t? Where are you at time 2t? Find X and Y from that and put them into (Y-X)/t^2.
 
Hello VF, welcome to PF :smile:

Please be meticulous about your equations. What you have to prove is that a = (Y-X)/t2.

Your relevant equations should be like##\qquad## s=ut+1/2at2 (you forgot the square).
And you need to explain what these symbols represent.

And (if necessary) a second equation is v(t) = v0 + at

But Dick (beat me to it) gives you a way to make do without needing this last equation.
 
@BvU oops sorry. My smartphone keyboard is wonky(seriously), but that's beside the point.
Yeah, I kind of did what @Dick said earlier, but notice that X and Y are different distances, and do not denote one point to another. The question says that an object will cover these two distances in the same time 2t with a uniform acceleration...
Or is it saying so? I don't know.. I think I'm totally missing something. thanks for the tips, anyway! Really appreciate it.
 
@BvU i'll be very sure to remember that next time. Thanks!
 
VeeFlamesPhys said:
@BvU oops sorry. My smartphone keyboard is wonky(seriously), but that's beside the point.
Yeah, I kind of did what @Dick said earlier, but notice that X and Y are different distances, and do not denote one point to another. The question says that an object will cover these two distances in the same time 2t with a uniform acceleration...
Or is it saying so? I don't know.. I think I'm totally missing something. thanks for the tips, anyway! Really appreciate it.

If you tried to do what I suggested and still can't get it, it would help to post your work so we can see where you are going wrong. Maybe not on the wonky smartphone.
 
My interpretation of
covers distances X and Y in the first two equal and consecutive intervals of time t
  • It starts at t=0 from rest at x = 0
  • at t = t1 it is at x = X
  • in the interval t from t = t1 to t2 = 2t1 it covers the distance from X to Y

but notice that X and Y are different distances, and do not denote one point to another. The question says that an object will cover these two distances in the same time 2t with a uniform acceleration...
doesn't seem right. X and Y are different, yes. The remainder is unclear or incorrect.
 
BvU said:
My interpretation of
  • It starts at t=0 from rest at x = 0
  • at t = t1 it is at x = X
  • in the interval t from t = t1 to t2 = 2t1 it covers the distance from X to Y

doesn't seem right. X and Y are different, yes. The remainder is unclear or incorrect.

Agreed, but it doesn't have to start from rest for the formula to be valid.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: BvU
It's justified Dick corrects me. The exercise statement "in the first two equal and consecutive intervals of time t" lured me into interpreting as starting from v = 0. But a = (Y-X)/t2 also is true if the particle starts with v = v0.

Now all VF has to do is come up with equations that feature these distances as functions of time and juggle with the given information.
(the "relevant equation" in post #1 is not enough to solve this. There's nothing with the dimension length (distance) in there. You need more, e.g. from here)
 
  • #10
And... SOLVED. Wow. That question really confused me... Thanks for all your help, @BvU and @Dick! :)
 
  • #11
My former physics teacher gave me a big hint I totally evaded.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 84 ·
3
Replies
84
Views
6K
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
2K