Prove Trichotomy: Homework Solutions & Hints

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The original poster attempts to prove the trichotomy property for natural numbers, which states that for any two natural numbers, one and only one of the following holds: they are equal, one is greater than the other, or one is less than the other. The discussion involves definitions of the natural numbers and the relational operators involved.

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  • Some participants question the definitions of the natural numbers and the relational operators, particularly the definition of "<". Others discuss the implications of different definitions on the proof of trichotomy.

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Participants are exploring various definitions and properties related to the natural numbers and the trichotomy property. There is a recognition of the need to clarify definitions, particularly regarding the nature of the trichotomy statement itself.

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The original poster acknowledges a potential misunderstanding of the trichotomy definition, indicating a need to differentiate between inclusive and exclusive interpretations of the logical "or".

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Homework Statement


I was trying to prove trichotomy for natural numbers.

Homework Equations


[itex]n > m \Leftrightarrow \exists k \neq 0 (n = m + k)[/itex]
[itex]n < m \Leftrightarrow \exists k \neq 0 (m = n + k)[/itex]

Trichotomy means in a set
[itex]\forall n \forall m ( n = m \vee n> m \vee n<m)[/itex]

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I need an hint, a push in the right direction.

thank you :)
 
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Using what basis? There are many different ways of defining the natural numbers and different ways of defining "<". Typically, "Trichotomy" is taken as part of the definitionof "<" for the natural numbers. How are you defining "<"?

A standard method is "<" is a binary relation on the natural numbers satisfying
1) If m< n and p is any natural number then m+p< n+p.
2) If m< n and 0< p, then mp< np.
3) If m and n are natural numbers then one and only one must be true:
a) m= n.
b) m< n.
c) n< m.

An equivalent definition is
"There exist a subset of the natural numbers, P, satifying
1) If m and n are both in P then mn is in P.
2) If m and n are both in P then m+ n is in P.
3) if m is a natural number then one and only one must be true:
a) m= 0.
b) m is in P.
c) -m is in P.

It is (3), of course, that is equivalent to "trichotomy". If you have that definition of "order", you define "<" by "a< b if and only if b- a is in P.
 
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I define < and > like I've written in the Relevant Equations section.
I define the natural numbers in a non rigorous way, just as an intuitive concept.
Addition is a binary relation with those property.

[itex]a+b \in N[/itex]
[itex]a+b = b+a[/itex]
[itex](a+b)+c = a+(b+c)[/itex]
There is one only element, and it's 0, for which [itex]a+0 = a[/itex]

I'm trying to prove some facts starting from those definitions. Trichotomy would be nice to prove, since i can use it to prove other things.
 
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I just realized that my definition of trichotomy is wrong, or incorrect. Usually [itex]\vee[/itex] is the inclusive or, but in this case should be the exclusive or since all 3 propositions can't be true, and not even two of them can.
 

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