Prove (u+v)dot(u-v)=0 iff |u|=|v|

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The discussion focuses on proving that the equation (u+v)·(u-v) = 0 holds true if and only if the magnitudes of vectors u and v are equal, denoted as |u| = |v|. The participants utilize the dot product formula for two-dimensional vectors, where u = (x1, y1) and v = (x2, y2), leading to the conclusion that u·u - v·v = 0 implies |u|^2 = |v|^2. The proof is established through algebraic manipulation of the dot product and the properties of vector magnitudes.

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Homework Statement


Show that (u+v)dot(u-v)=0 iff |u| = |v|


Homework Equations


if u= x1, y1
and if v= x2, y2
then u dot v= x1x2 + y1y2

The Attempt at a Solution


((x1+x2),(y1+y2)) dot ((x1-x2),(y1-y2))=
(x1^2-x2^2)+(y1^2-y2^2)=
if |u|=|v| then sqr(x1^2+y1^2)=sqr(x2^2+y2^2)
x1^2+y1^2=x2^2+y2^2
Now back to problem
x1^2+y1^2-x2^2-y2^2=0
let x1^2+y1^2=a
since x1^2+y1^2=x2^2+y2^2, x2^2+y2^2=a
a-a=0

i've shown the if part but how do I show the iff part?
 
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f25274 said:

Homework Statement


Show that (u+v)dot(u-v)=0 iff |u| = |v|


Homework Equations


if u= x1, y1
and if v= x2, y2
then u dot v= x1x2 + y1y2

The Attempt at a Solution


((x1+x2),(y1+y2)) dot ((x1-x2),(y1-y2))=
(x1^2-x2^2)+(y1^2-y2^2)=
if |u|=|v| then sqr(x1^2+y1^2)=sqr(x2^2+y2^2)
x1^2+y1^2=x2^2+y2^2
Now back to problem
x1^2+y1^2-x2^2-y2^2=0
let x1^2+y1^2=a
since x1^2+y1^2=x2^2+y2^2, x2^2+y2^2=a
a-a=0

i've shown the if part but how do I show the iff part?
Assume that (u + v)\cdot(u - v) = 0.

Use the fact that (a + b)\cdot(c + d) = a \cdot c + a \cdot d + b \cdot c + b \cdot d.
 
Mark44 said:
Assume that (u + v)\cdot(u - v) = 0.

Use the fact that (a + b)\cdot(c + d) = a \cdot c + a \cdot d + b \cdot c + b \cdot d.

ohhhhhhhh
u dot u= u^2 right?

(u+v) dot (u-v) = u2 + u dot -v + u dot v -v2
-x1x2-y1y2+x1x2+y1y2=0
(u+v) dot (u-v) = u^2-v^2
:o okay now what do I do...
 
f25274 said:
ohhhhhhhh
u dot u= u^2 right?
No. u \cdot u = |u|2
f25274 said:
(u+v) dot (u-v) = u2 + u dot -v + u dot v -v2
-x1x2-y1y2+x1x2+y1y2=0
(u+v) dot (u-v) = u^2-v^2
:o okay now what do I do...
 
oh :I
ok I got it now thanks!
 

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