Prove using general properties of vectors (not coordinates):

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The discussion revolves around proving the vector identity |X+Y|^2 - |X-Y|^2 = 4X·Y using general properties of vectors. Participants are exploring the properties of vector magnitudes and dot products in the context of this proof.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning how to begin the proof and discussing the definition of magnitude squared as a potential starting point. Some suggest expanding the left side of the equation, while others express confusion about the relationship between 4XY and 4X·Y.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with some participants providing insights into vector properties. A few have attempted to expand the equation, but there is no clear consensus on the next steps or the relationship between the terms discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are assuming that X and Y are vectors, and there is a focus on using general vector properties rather than coordinate-based methods. Some properties of vectors have been mentioned, but the discussion remains open-ended.

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Homework Statement



Prove that |X+Y|^2 - |X-Y|^2 = 4X(dot)Y using general properties of vectors.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm very confused about how to start this. If someone could give me some help to just get me started then that would hopefully get the ball rolling for me. Thanks!
 
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What's the definition of the magnitude squared? Might be a good way to start.
 
Well, simply "expand" the left side of the equation...

Edit: sorry, late
 
Oh wow, I definitely wasn't thinking straight. Thanks guys, I expanded it and got 4XY. Well that was a lot easier than I thought...
 
ccmetz2020 said:
Oh wow, I definitely wasn't thinking straight. Thanks guys, I expanded it and got 4XY. Well that was a lot easier than I thought...
Did you get 4X(dot)Y ? ... or simply 4XY ?
 
I got just 4XY, but I don't see how I can get 4X(dot)Y from that? Is there a way to say that 4XY = 4X(dot)Y? Thanks again for the help.
 
ccmetz2020 said:

Homework Statement



Prove that |X+Y|^2 - |X-Y|^2 = 4X(dot)Y using general properties of vectors.

Homework Equations



?

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm very confused about how to start this. If someone could give me some help to just get me started then that would hopefully get the ball rolling for me. Thanks!

ccmetz2020 said:
I got just 4XY, but I don't see how I can get 4X(dot)Y from that? Is there a way to say that 4XY = 4X(dot)Y? Thanks again for the help.
I assume that X & Y are vectors, not variables used as coordinates.

So you need to :

\text{Prove that }\ \left|\vec{X}+\vec{Y}\right|^2-\left|\vec{X}-\vec{Y}\right|^2=4\vec{X}\cdot\vec{Y}\ \text{ using general properties of vectors.}

Some properties:
\left|\vec{A}\,\right|^2=\vec{A}\cdot\vec{A}

\vec{A}\cdot\left(\vec{B}+\vec{C}\right)=\vec{A}\cdot\vec{B}+\vec{A}\cdot\vec{C}\quad\text{and}\quad\left(\vec{B}+\vec{C}\right)\cdot\vec{A}=\vec{B}\cdot\vec{A}+\vec{C}\cdot\vec{A}

\vec{A}\cdot\vec{B}=\vec{B}\cdot\vec{A}

etc.​
For instance:

\left|\vec{X}+\vec{Y}\right|^2=\vec{X}\cdot\vec{X}+2\vec{X}\cdot\vec{Y}+\vec{Y}\cdot\vec{Y}
 

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