Proving 139/159 is Not an Upper Bound for E = {(14n + 11)/(16n + 19): n ε N}

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The discussion centers on proving that 139/159 is not an upper bound for the set of real numbers defined as E = {(14n + 11)/(16n + 19): n ε N}. Participants clarify that to demonstrate this, one must find a natural number n such that (14n + 11)/(16n + 19) exceeds 139/159. The consensus is that it is unnecessary to find the closest integer; any integer yielding a value greater than 139/159 suffices.

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Homework Statement



Prove that 139/159 is not an upper bound for the set of real numbers:

E ={(14n + 11)/(16n + 19): n ε N}


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Right so I let 14n + 11 = 139 and I got n=9.14. Since n is supposed to be natural and the answer I got for n isn't, can I deduce that 139/159 is not an upper bound for E?
 
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You have to find a positive integer such that if you plug it into (14n + 11)/(16n + 19) you get a number greater than 139/159.

 
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Hey shortydeb thanks for the quick reply.

That is what I originally thought but do I not need to get a number n that lies before and after 139/159 but not exactly on it? Its very tedious work if that is the case :/
 
Set (14n + 11)/(16n + 19) equal to 139/159 and see what you get for n.
 
teme92 said:
Hey shortydeb thanks for the quick reply.

That is what I originally thought but do I not need to get a number n that lies before and after 139/159 but not exactly on it? Its very tedious work if that is the case :/

No. All you need do is find an integer n giving the fraction > 139/159. You do not need to find the "best" or "nearest" n, or anything like that.
 
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Ok I get it now so. Thanks for the help much appreciated
 

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