Proving an equation is an eigenstate of the momentum operator.

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The discussion revolves around proving that a specific wave function, representing a free particle, is an eigenstate of the momentum operator in quantum mechanics. The subject area includes concepts of eigenvalues and eigenfunctions, as well as the mathematical framework of operators acting on wave functions.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the momentum operator and the wave function, questioning the correctness of the original approach and the definitions of eigenvalues and eigenfunctions. There are attempts to derive the eigenvalue equation and clarify the implications of applying the operator to its eigenfunction.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the mathematical steps involved in demonstrating that the wave function is an eigenstate. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with participants sharing their understanding and seeking clarification on specific points.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the mathematical notation and the display of equations, which may affect participants' understanding of the topic. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the fundamental concepts of eigenfunctions and eigenvalues.

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Homework Statement


A free particle (de Broglie wave) may be represented by the wave-function

\psi(x)=Aeikx

Show that this is an eigenstate of the momentum operator \hat{p}=-\hbar\frac{\delta}{\deltax}

Homework Equations


\hat{p}un(x)=anun(x)
an is the eigenvalue
un(x) is the corresponding eigenfunction

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok so first I have
\hat{p}=-\hbar\frac{\delta}{\deltax}​
which has the boundary condition that un is periodic in the range L. Then the eigenvalue equation is
-i\hbar\frac{\delta}{\deltax}\psi(x)=an\psi(x)​
where \psi(x) is the eigenfunction un(x)
The solution of the equation is then
\psi(x)=\hbareianx
=\psi(x)=Aeikx
where k is the eigenvalue an and A is \hbar (Plancks Constant)

Ok so what I would like to know is:
Is the above correct?
If so why is it correct?
If its wrong why is it wrong?
What exactly is an eigenfunction and eigenvalue?
What is this range L?

As you can probably guess from the above questions I know absolutely nothing on this topic. I have a sort of understanding on what an eigenfunction and eigenvalue are but after going through revision notes on this stuff numerous times I still can't get my head round the mathematics of it, how everything changes to the way it does. The only reason why I have the above working out is because the revision notes on the topic is very similar to the question but is quite vague on how one thing transitions to the next.
 
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When an operator acts on a function, the function may change. But when an operator acts on one of the eigenfunctions of this same operator, the function does not change
 
So are you saying that -iℏ(δ/deltax) shouldn't change to ℏeianx since its acting on the eigenfunction of the same operator? Sorry if this is wrong just trying to understand what you said.
 
When an operator acts on one of its own eigenfuctions, it only multiplies the given fuction simply by a number but it does not result in a different function.
 
You have\hat{p}=-i\hbar\frac{\partial}{\partial x}and \psi(x) = Ae^{ikx}, so you can show that\hat{p}\psi(x) = -i\hbar\frac{\partial}{\partial x}(Ae^{ikx}) = \hbar k \,\psi(x)I'll leave it to you to fill in the steps. Applying \hat{p} to this wave function results in a multiple of the wave function, so this wave function is called an eigenfunction or eigenstate of \hat{p}, and the multiple, \hbar k, is called the eigenvalue.

If you want to go with the approach you originally took, you have-i\hbar\frac{d\psi}{dx} = a_n \psi
(Since \psi(x) only depends on x, we can replace the partial derivative by a regular derivative.) That equation is separable, so you get
-i\hbar\frac{d\psi}{\psi} = a_n\,dx
Now you'd want to integrate both sides and solve for \psi. The constant of integration eventually turns into A. By comparing your solution to the form of \psi given, you can determine what the eigenvalue a_n is equal to in terms of k.
 
So going from my original approach if i continue from:

-i\hbar\frac{\delta\psi}{\psi}=andx

then integrate through I get:

-i\hbarln\psi+constant=anx+constant

divide through by -i\hbar and move the constant from the LHS to the RHS giving:

ln\psi=\frac{a<sub>n</sub>x}{-i\hbar}+constant

convert into exponential form:

\psi=Ae\frac{a<sub>n</sub>x}{-i\hbar}

where k=\frac{a<sub>n</sub>}{\hbar}

Is this correct?

Also I'm not sure if this happens on any of your computers/laptops but on mine some of the equations are not displaying properly. If they aren't showing up right what has made it go like that?
 
Yes, that looks correct.

Use LaTeX to write the entire expression rather than individual symbols. Don't use sub and sup tags inside itex tags. Use _ for subscripts and ^ for superscripts, e.g. a_n and e^{ikx}.
 
Ok thanks for that, the equation issue was bugging me for ages haha. Also thanks for the help vela and grzz I think I understand how operators work now.
 

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