Proving AunionB=AunionC, B=C Theorem

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The discussion revolves around the theorem stating that if A∪B = A∪C, then B = C. Participants are evaluating the validity of this theorem and exploring where a proof might fail.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants attempt a proof by contradiction, questioning the correct application of this method in the context of the theorem. Others raise concerns about the assumptions made regarding the equality of sets and provide counterexamples to challenge the theorem's validity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different interpretations of the proof method and exploring counterexamples. There is no explicit consensus on the theorem's correctness, but productive questioning and clarification of assumptions are taking place.

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One participant provides a specific example with sets A, B, and C to illustrate a scenario where the theorem does not hold, prompting further examination of the assumptions involved.

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Homework Statement


I need to decide whether the theorem is correct and decide where the proof fails.
AunionB=AunionC, B=C


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The Attempt at a Solution


We will prove by contradiction. Suppose that A[tex]\cup[/tex]B and A[tex]\cup[/tex]C are not equal. Then there is some object x that is in one and not the other. We proceed by looking at 2 cases:
First look at the case where x[tex]\in[/tex]A[tex]\cup[/tex]B and x[tex]\notin[/tex]A[tex]\cup[/tex]C. Then x[tex]\notin[/tex]A. So x[tex]\in[/tex]B. Also x[tex]\notin[/tex]C. Therefore x is in B and not in C, which contradicts the condition B=C.

I thought the theorme was correct, but I can't find where the proof goes wrong.
 
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kathrynag said:

Homework Statement


I need to decide whether the theorem is correct and decide where the proof fails.
AunionB=AunionC, B=C


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


We will prove by contradiction. Suppose that A[tex]\cup[/tex]B and A[tex]\cup[/tex]C are not equal.
That's NOT the way proof by contradiction works! To prove "if X then Y" by contradiction, you assume Y is not true. Here your theorem is "if [tex]A\cup B= A\cup C[/tex] then B= C. Proof by contradiction would start "suppose B is not equal to C".

Then there is some object x that is in one and not the other. We proceed by looking at 2 cases:
First look at the case where x[tex]\in[/tex]A[tex]\cup[/tex]B and x[tex]\notin[/tex]A[tex]\cup[/tex]C. Then x[tex]\notin[/tex]A. So x[tex]\in[/tex]B. Also x[tex]\notin[/tex]C. Therefore x is in B and not in C, which contradicts the condition B=C.

I thought the theorme was correct, but I can't find where the proof goes wrong.
 
HallsofIvy said:
That's NOT the way proof by contradiction works! To prove "if X then Y" by contradiction, you assume Y is not true. Here your theorem is "if [tex]A\cup B= A\cup C[/tex] then B= C. Proof by contradiction would start "suppose B is not equal to C".

Oh yeah I forgot about that.
 
I think it's not true. You take A={1,2,3}. B={1,0}, C={2,0}. Then B not = C but A union B= A union C
 

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