Proving n/Φ(n)=2q/q-1: A Proof Using Euler's Totient Function

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The discussion revolves around proving a relationship involving even perfect numbers and Euler's totient function, specifically the equation n/Φ(n) = 2q/(q-1), where n is an even perfect number and q is a prime. Participants are exploring the properties of the totient function and its application to this equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the Euler-Euclid theorem but expresses difficulty in progressing. Some participants question the conditions on q and the implications of the equation, while others discuss properties of the totient function related to powers of primes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the conditions necessary for q and exploring relevant properties of the totient function. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Participants note the potential need for additional conditions on q and the implications of the equation's structure. There is also mention of specific properties of the totient function that may be relevant to the proof.

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Hello, can anyone help with this question? Thank you.


Let n even perfect number and q prime. Show that n/Φ(n)=2q/q-1.

Φ(n) is the Euler function-totient (the number of positive integers less than or equal to n that are coprime to n)


I have tried euler-euclid theorem but could not get it.
 
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2q/(q-1) is different for different primes q, so you must have some additional condition on what q is (unless you really meant without the parentheses, in which case 2q/q-1 = 1 which makes no sense). Unless you're trying to show such a q exists?
 


phi(n)=phi[2^(k-1)q] where q=(2^k)-1

phi(n)=phi(2^(k-1))phi(q)=phi(2^(k-1))(q-1)

Is there any property I can use to finish this?
 


What's phi(2^(k-1))? There's a formula for phi for powers of a prime. (It's also the number of odd integers less than 2^(k-1)).
 

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