Proving Normal Subgroup N is Central in Group G

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The discussion confirms that if N is a cyclic subgroup that is normal in group G with index n, and Aut(N) has no element of order n, then N is indeed central in G. The reasoning involves examining the conjugation action of G on N and the implications of the automorphisms of N. The participants explore the relationship between the order of automorphisms and the structure of N, particularly in cases where n is prime, suggesting the need for further investigation into counterexamples involving semidirect products of cyclic groups.

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"If N is a cyclic subgroup that is normal in G with index n and Aut(N) has no element of order n then N is central."

Is this true?

I think it is, but I don't know how to go about proving it... anyone have a hint that could get me started?
 
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well let's just follow our nose. if N is not in the center, then its elements do notcommute with everything. so conjugating N by other elements of G, altough it elaves N \inv ariant, does not always give the identity automorphism of N.

hence N has some automorhisms given by these other elements.

now what would the orders of such automorphisms be? surely since N is cyclic, elements of n itelf do act trivially on N by conjugation, so the conjugation action defines map from G to Aut(N) with N in the kernel.

Thus the image of G/N in Aut(N) has image of roder dividing indexN = n.

But it is not clear to me it must be cyclic, nor even of order n.

but suppose n were say prime? then what?

look for a counter example as a semidirect product of two cyclic groups.
 

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