Proving Properties of Open Sets in $\mathbb{R}^d$

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The discussion revolves around the properties of open sets in the context of real analysis, specifically focusing on a proper open subset of \(\mathbb{R}^d\). The original poster presents a problem involving the construction of sets \(O_n\) based on the distance from the complement of the open set, and various properties that need to be proven regarding these sets.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the definitions and implications of the distance between sets, questioning the instructor's expectations regarding the properties of \(d(O_n, O^c)\). There is a suggestion to consider limits of distances to understand the behavior of \(d(O_n, O^c)\) as \(n\) varies.

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Some participants have provided suggestions and hints regarding the definitions of distance and the nature of infima. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the statements about the distances are correct and how they relate to the properties of the sets involved. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the problem's requirements.

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Participants note that the construction of \(O_n\) leads to certain constraints on the distances involved, and there is a recognition that the problem may involve subtleties regarding the attainability of infima. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the instructor's intent, particularly in relation to the conditions under which \(O_n\) is non-empty.

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Homework Statement


Let ##O## be a proper open subset of ##\mathbb{R}^d## (i.e.## O## is open, nonempty, and is not equal to ##\mathbb{R}^d##). For each ##n\in \mathbb{N}## let
##O_n=\big\{x\in O : d(x,O^c)>1/n\big\}##
Prove that:
(a) ##O_n## is open and ##O_n\subset O## for all ##n\in \mathbb{N}##,
(b) ##O_1\subset O_2 \subset \dots ##, and ##\cup_n O_n=O##
(c) If ##O_n\neq 0## then ##d(O_n, O^c)\ge \frac{1}{n}##
(d) If ##O_n\neq 0## then ##d(O_n, O^c_{n+1})\ge \frac{1}{n(n+1)}##

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(a) solved
(b) solved
(c) I'm not sure what the instructor is looking for here since there is no ##n## and no ##x\in O_n## such that ##d(x,O^c)=\frac{1}{n}## since that would contradict the construction of ##O_n##. It seems like the problem statement should be
If ##O_n\neq 0## then ##d(O_n, O^c)> \frac{1}{n}##.
(d) ##d(O_n,O^c_{n+1})=d(O_n,O^c)-d(O_{n+1},O^c)\ge \frac{1}{n}-\frac{1}{n+1}=\frac{1}{n(n+1)}##
 
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nateHI said:
(c) I'm not sure what the instructor is looking for here since there is no ##n## and no ##x\in O_n## such that ##d(x,O^c)=\frac{1}{n}## since that would contradict the construction of ##O_n##.

The following just a suggestion, not necessarily a useful "hint":

How do your course materials define the distance between two sets? Perhaps to find d(O_n, O^c) you might have to do something like take a limit of distances d(x_i,O^c) with each d(x_i,O^c) \gt \frac{1}{n} but with the sequence of distances converging to \frac{1}{n}.
 
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Stephen Tashi said:
The following just a suggestion, not necessarily a useful "hint":

How do your course materials define the distance between two sets? Perhaps to find d(O_n, O^c) you might have to do something like take a limit of distances d(x_i,O^c) with each d(x_i,O^c) \gt \frac{1}{n} but with the sequence of distances converging to \frac{1}{n}.

The distance between the two sets is ##inf d(x_i, y_i)## where ##x_i\in O_n##, ##y_i\in O^c##. But the problem I see is that by part (a) ##O_n## is open (but bounded) hence the lower bound of ##d(O_n, O^c)## is not attainable even though ##O^c## is closed. Also, the limits don't coincide since
##lim_{n\to\infty} d(O_n,O^c)\to 1/n## but ##lim_{n\to\infty}1/n\to 0##
 
nateHI said:
hence the lower bound of ##d(O_n, O^c)## is not attainable even though ##O^c## is closed.

One need not attain an infimum for it to be an infimum. Let O be the open interval (0,1). and let N = 4. I think O_n is the open interval ( \frac{1}{4}, \frac{3}{4}). What is distance between O^C and ( \frac{1}{4}, \frac{3}{4}) ?.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
One need not attain an infimum for it to be an infimum. Let O be the open interval (0,1). and let N = 4. I think O_n is the open interval ( \frac{1}{4}, \frac{3}{4}). What is distance between O^C and ( \frac{1}{4}, \frac{3}{4}) ?.

OK thanks, I guess saying ##d(O_n, O^c)\ge 1/4## is just another way of writing what the lower bound is. I was probably overthinking ( possibly under-thinking) things.

Does part (d) seem correct?
 
You should explain why ##d(O_n,O^c_{n+1})=d(O_n,O^c)-d(O_{n+1},O^c)##
 

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