Proving t a^-1 = b: Permutations & Cycles Homework

[kathrynag]

Homework Statement

Let t be an element of S be the cycle (1,2...k) of length k with k<=n.
a) prove that if a is an element of S then ata^-1=(a(1),a(2),...,a(k)). Thus ata^-1 is a cycle of length k.
b)let b be any cycle of length k. Prove there exists a permutation a an element of S such that ata^-1=b.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution

We assume t is an element of S and a is an element S.
By definition of elements of S if t is in S, we have a determined by t(1), t(2),...,t(n)
Furthermore if a is in S, we have a(1), a(2)...a(n).
That's as far as I get.

 

[tiny-tim]

hi kathrynag!

just read out that equation in English …

ata^-1=(a(1),a(2),...,a(k))

… so what, for example, does ata^-1 do to a(2) ?

 

[kathrynag]

Does it go to 2?

 

[kathrynag]

Ok if a is defined by 1--->a(1), 2-----a(2),k--->a(k), then a^-1 is defined as a(1)-->1,a(2)--->2, a(k)--->k
Then ata^-1 for a(2) is a(t(2))=a(2)

 

[tiny-tim]

Does it go to 2?

a^-1 sends it to 2 …

so what does ata^-1 send it to?

 

[kathrynag]

a(t(2))
t(2)=2
a(2)

 

[tiny-tim]

Let t be an element of S be the cycle (1,2...k)

a(t(2))
t(2)=2
a(2)

ah! no, you're misunderstanding the notation for a cycle …

(1,2...k) means that it sends 1 to 2, 2 to 3, … and k to 1.

so t(2) = … ?​

 

[kathrynag]

3
so we are left with a(3)=4

 

[tiny-tim]

3
so we are left with a(3)=4

no!

you're not told anything about a, are you?

a(3) is just a(3) ! :bigginr:

(and I'm off to bed :zzz: … see you tomorrow!)

 

[kathrynag]

I thought I could do this:
By definition of elements of S if t is in S, we have a determined by t(1), t(2),...,t(n)
Furthermore if a is in S, we have a(1), a(2)...a(n).

 

[kathrynag]

So I have ata^-1=at(n)
because a^-1 sends a(1)--->1,a(2)--->2,...a(n)--->n
By defininition of t, we have a(1), a(2), a(3)...a(k). We go to k because our definition of t says k<=n.


For b,
Let b be any cycle of length k.
We have (1,2...k). I'm not sure how to show the rest.

 

[tiny-tim]

hi kathrynag!

(just got up :zzz: …)

So I have ata^-1=at(n)
because a^-1 sends a(1)--->1,a(2)--->2,...a(n)--->n
By defininition of t, we have a(1), a(2), a(3)...a(k).

do you mean we have (a(1), a(2), a(3),...a(k))?

anyway, before we go any further, i need to know: what exactly is S?