Proving that l^p is properly contained in l^q for 1<=p<q<=infty

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The discussion revolves around proving that the space \( l^p \) is properly contained within \( l^q \) for the case where \( 1 \leq p < q \leq \infty \). Participants are exploring the properties of these function spaces and the implications of their definitions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to use the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality and re-express the series to show boundedness, but expresses uncertainty about its applicability in infinite dimensions. Others suggest considering a comparison test for series as a potential approach.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering tips and perspectives. Some guidance has been provided regarding comparison tests and functions, but there is no explicit consensus on a definitive approach yet.

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The original poster mentions having examples of proper containment but struggles with the formal proof. There is an indication of reviewing related materials for additional insights.

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Homework Statement


Prove that l^{p}\subsetneq l^q for 1\leq p &lt; q \leq \infty.

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I know how to prove the q=\infty case, and how to find an example where the containment is proper (just take the harmonic series to the appropriate power), but I cannot find a way to prove the actual containment. I tried re-writing as follows, to try and use the cauchy-schwarz inequality, but I don't even know if it holds in an infinite dimensional vector space..

\sum_{n=1}^\infty |x_n|^q = \sum_{n=1}^\infty |x_n|^p|x_n|^{q/p}

I'm trying to show that \sum_{n=1}^\infty |x_n|^p = M^p for some real, finite M implies that \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}|x_n|^q is bounded above by something which depends on this limit, and hence I can just raise both sides to the power 1/q, and I will have the containment. But like I said before, I have searched around but I could not find any hints.

Any help is appreciated!
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What about a simple comparison test for series?
 
Thanks micromass. that was a helpful tip
 
I was reviewing this, and this post came up. It may give someone else a slightly-different
perspective.Sorry if necro-posting is not helpful --please let me know:

A tip related to micromass': Think of the function f(x)= ax for a constant;

where is it increasing/decreasing? Think , too, of a necessary condition for {an}

to be in lp re the partial sums as n→∞.
 

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