Proving the Compactness of O(3) as a 3-Manifold in R^9

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The discussion centers on proving that O(3), the set of all orthogonal 3x3 matrices, is a compact 3-manifold without boundary in R^9. Participants explore the definitions and properties that support this characterization, including aspects of manifold theory and compactness.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions which aspect of the proof is troubling, suggesting that O(3) is straightforwardly a closed and bounded subset of R^9.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the details of the proof, particularly regarding how to demonstrate that O(3) is closed and bounded, indicating a concern with the implications of working with matrices.
  • A participant notes that O(3) is defined by equations involving the matrix elements, specifically that a matrix is in O(3) if it satisfies MM^t=I, which implies that the set is closed and bounded.
  • It is mentioned that since O(3) is defined by nonsingular equations, it qualifies as a manifold, and the relationship between varieties and manifolds is highlighted.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the characterization of O(3) as a manifold and the implications of it being defined by equations. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the specific details of proving its compactness and the closed and bounded nature of the set.

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Limitations include the need for clarity on the definitions of closed and bounded in the context of matrices, as well as the specific equations that define O(3) and their implications for compactness.

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Hi folks,

How would I go about showing that O(3) (the set of all orthogonal 3x3 matrices) is a compact 3-manifold (without boundary) in R^9?
 
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Which part is troubling you? That is in R^9, is a manifold, or is compact? The first and the last two are straightfoward - it is a closed, bounded subset of R^9 (3x3 matrices form a 9-dim real space), and the inclusion makes it a manifold naturally.
 
I understand that it is in R^9. "Intuitively", it makes sense that it's a 3-manifold, but I'm not entirely clear on the details of the proof. Also, how do you show it is closed and bounded? I guess the fact that we are dealing w/ matrices rather than real numbers is troubling me here...

Thanks for your help :smile:
 
M(3)=R^9, is, in coordinates {m_ij : 1<=i,j<=3}. O(3) is given by equations in the m_ij. E.G. M is in O(3) if and only if MM^t=I, giving equations the m_ij must satisfy. What are the equations that define O(3)? These make it clear that the set is closed, and bounded. O(3) is just cut out by some (nonsingular) equations, so it's a manifold (even a variety).
 
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if its a variety its a manifold, since its a group, hence homogeneous.
 

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