Proving the Intersection of Functions

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Prove the following:

If [tex]f : A \rightarrow B[/tex] and [tex]g : C \rightarrow D[/tex], then [tex]f \cap g : A \cap C \rightarrow B \cap D[/tex].

Here's my thoughts/attempt:

Proof:
Let A, B, C, and D be sets. Assume [tex]f : A \rightarrow B[/tex] and [tex]g : C \rightarrow D[/tex]. Let [tex]a \in A[/tex]. Since f is a function from A to B, there is some [tex]y \in B[/tex] such that [tex](a, y) \in f[/tex]. Let [tex]b \in B[/tex] be such an element, that is, let [tex]b \in B[/tex] such that [tex](a,b) \in f[/tex]. Let [tex]c \in C[/tex]. Since g is a function from C to D, there is some [tex]z \in D[/tex] such that [tex](c, z) \in g[/tex]. Let [tex]d \in D[/tex] be such an element, that is, let [tex]d \in D[/tex] such that [tex](c,d) \in g[/tex].



This is all I have so far.

Would I have to break it into cases where [tex]a = c[/tex] and [tex]a \not= c[/tex]? If [tex]a = c[/tex], [tex]A \cap C[/tex] contains an element, but if [tex]a \not= c[/tex], [tex]A \cap C[/tex] is empty since a and c were arbitrary. The same argument holds for [tex]B \cap D[/tex]. So, taking these things into account, [tex]f \cap g[/tex] is either a function from the set containing a to the set containing b, or its a function from the empty set to the empty set.

Does this make any sense, is it necessary, and how should I write it in my proof?

Thanks in advance.
 
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What, exactly, is your definition of [itex]f \cap g[/itex]?
 
I'm guessing just the normal definition of intersection of sets.

All the ordered pairs that are common to both f and g.
 
Just talk in terms of set theoretics. f is a set, g is a set. Show that the intersection of f and g defines a new relation on (A intersect C)x(B intersect D) that satisfies the definition of a function. (for every x in A intersect C there is some y in B intersect D such that (x,y) in the relation and that for any x in A intersect C this y is unique.)

What happens if we take unions? Do we still get a new function?

Also, no one really talks about functions this way (intersections and unions).
 
Well, one of our earlier assignments was to disprove the case when we took unions.

So I know that you don't get a function when you take f union g.



I'm still not convinced that the intersection claim is correct though.

Earlier, on another forum, someone came up with the counterexample:
[tex]A = \left\{ {1,2,4} \right\}\,,\,B = \left\{ {p.q,r} \right\}\,,\,C = \left\{ {2,4,6} \right\}\,\& \,D = \left\{ {r,s,t} \right\}[/tex]
[tex]f:A \mapsto B,\quad f = \left\{ {(1,p),(2,r),(4,q)} \right\}[/tex]
[tex]g:C \mapsto D,\quad g = \left\{ {(2,r),(4,t),(6,s)} \right\}[/tex]

But [tex]f \cap g = \left\{ {(2,r)} \right\}[/tex] while [tex]A \cap C = \left\{ {2,4} \right\}[/tex] clearly [tex]f \cap g:A \cap C \not{\mapsto} B \cap D[/tex]
There is no mapping for the term 4.
 
ZioX said:
Also, no one really talks about functions this way (intersections and unions).
Unless you're working in an algebra of relations, in which case the operation is fairly natural.
 
Well there you go: it's not true.

Unions are functions when the domains are disjoint.
 
i'm always afraid to write a "this is wrong"

on a homework assignment that says "prove the following theorem"

Scares me.