Proving the Reducibility of Polynomial f_n(x) for n>=2 and n not prime

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The discussion revolves around proving the reducibility of the polynomial f_n(x) = x^{n-1} + x^{n-2} + ... + x + 1 for n >= 2, where n is not prime. Participants explore the implications of n being even or odd and the relationship between n and its prime factors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the reducibility of the polynomial based on whether n is even or odd, with some suggesting the use of roots of unity. Questions arise about the implications of multiplying by (x-1) and the role of cyclotomic polynomials in the factorization process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the factorization of the polynomial over the rationals. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider the roots of unity and cyclotomic factors, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach.

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Participants note the importance of factoring the polynomial over the rationals and the relevance of prime factors of n in the discussion. There is also mention of the cyclotomic polynomial's role in the factorization process.

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Homework Statement


Prove that for n>=2, n not prime, the following polynomial is reducible
[tex] f_n(x) = x^{n-1} + x^{n-2} + ... + x + 1[/tex]

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If n is even, the polynomial has -1 as a root, so it is reducible. But when n is odd (and not prime) I'm not sure how to show it? Thanks for the help.
 
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Suppose you first multiply by (x-1).
Can you then reduce the polynome (other than by (x-1))?
 
-1 works when 2 is a factor of n because it's a primitive 2nd root of 1. Can you show if p is a prime factor of n and u is a primitive pth root of n, then u is a root of your polynomial?
 
@Serena: Thank you. If n is not prime, then in particular, the p-th cyclotomic polynomial, p a prime and p|n, divides fn(x). Would there be an easier way to show this without knowing about the factorization of x^n - 1?

@Dick: Oh, I see that I forgot to mention in the question the most important part! I need to factor the polynomial over the rationals! Sry :) Otherwise, by what Serena implies, the answer would be obvious as the n roots of unity except 1 are the roots of fn(x).
 
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To clarify: I meant reduce fn(x) over the rationals!
 
burritoloco said:
To clarify: I meant reduce fn(x) over the rationals!

If you can deduce that the roots are the pth roots of unity, except for 1, when you multiply all of those factors together, you do get a rational polynomial.
 
Yes I know :), I've just read it off from my book. Each irreducible factor will be over the rationals (over Z actually). Follows from the factorization of x^n - 1 with cyclotomic factors. Using Mobius inversion formula, it follows that each cyclotomic polynomial has integer coefficients. Thanks!
 

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