Proving the Vitali Set: A Real Line Challenge

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The discussion centers on the proof of properties related to the Vitali set, specifically addressing three key statements regarding Lebesgue measurability. It is established that every Lebesgue measurable subset of a Vitali set is a null set, and that the Vitali set itself is not Lebesgue measurable. Additionally, it is concluded that any set with positive Lebesgue outer measure contains a subset that is not Lebesgue measurable. The construction of the Vitali set involves selecting points from cosets of rational numbers that intersect a set of positive outer measure.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Lebesgue measure theory
  • Familiarity with cosets and the group of rational numbers
  • Knowledge of null sets in measure theory
  • Experience with constructing sets in real analysis
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  • Study the properties of Lebesgue measurable sets in detail
  • Learn about the construction and implications of Vitali sets
  • Explore the concept of outer measure and its applications
  • Investigate the relationship between countability and measure in real analysis
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Homework Statement


Let V a subset of the real line be called a vitali set if V contains precisely one point from each coset of the group of rational numbers. Prove:

Homework Equations


1) every lebesgue measurable subset of V is a nullset.
2) V is not lebesgue measurable
3) every set of positive Lebesgue outer measure contains a set that is not lebesgue measurable.

The Attempt at a Solution



i already did 1 and 2.
i am stuck at 3,
i think i need to consruct a vitali set in the given one which i could do if the set contains an interval,..
but it doesn't need to , all i could know about it is that it is not countable since if it were, then its outermeasure will be zero.

thanks a lot
any help is appreciated
 
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If S is a set of positive Lebesgue outer measure, not every coset of \mathbb{Q} will necessarily intersect S, but uncountably many of them will. Try defining V as follows: from each coset that does intersect S, choose one point from the intersection. Then proceed as you did in 2.

[Edit]: My construction will assure that V is not too small, but you also need to make sure that it isn't too big. But S has outer measure > 0, so there must exist some interval I (say, of length 1) such that S \cap I has outer measure > 0. So replace S by S \cap I and before constructing V.
 
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