Pumping Warm Crude Oil: Calculating NPSA & Velocity Head

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the Net Positive Suction Head Available (NPSHa) and the velocity head for a mobile centrifugal pump used to pump warm crude oil from a storage tank. Participants explore the implications of various parameters such as friction head, flow rate, and the dimensions of the suction line.

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Main Points Raised

  • Mojo presents the NPSHa formula and questions whether the length of the flexible hose needs to be included in the calculations.
  • Another participant suggests considering the friction in the inlet piping, indicating that it is already accounted for in the provided friction head loss value.
  • One participant confirms that the frictional head loss is represented by the 1.2 m value given in the problem statement.
  • There is a discussion on the calculation of velocity head, with one participant providing a formula and noting the need to convert flow rate to cubic meters per second.
  • Another participant provides a calculated value for the velocity head, which differs from Mojo's initial calculation.
  • Mojo later revises their calculation for the velocity head and shares a new result, indicating a process of refinement in their approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the friction head loss value in the calculations, but there are differing results for the velocity head, indicating unresolved discrepancies in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the use of the flexible hose length in the calculations and the conversion factors applied to the flow rate. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the formulas and parameters involved.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in fluid dynamics, pump design, or engineering students working on related problems in hydraulics.

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At an oil refinery, a mobile centrifugal pump is used to pump warm crude oil from a storage tank. Liquid level in tank at elevation of 3 metres above pump. Suction side of pump is fed with a flexible hose that is 10 metres long.
Crude oil density: 846 kg/m3
Crude flow 4000 kg/h
Internal diameter of flexible hose: 50mm
Vapor Pressure of crude oil: 0.0654 bar (a)
Friction head in suction line: 1.2 m

NPSA Available = [P(atm) - Pv] / [density * grav] + hs - hf

Velocity Head: H(v) = u^2/2g
[where u = Q/pi*r^2]

I have plugged in my values into the two above equations to find out NPSHa and Velocity head.
However, the 10m value that is mentioned for the flexible hose i did not plug in.Does this 10m value need to be used in the solution or is it just for the purpose of a sketch?
My solution is attached, any help will be kindly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mojo
 

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Think about a term for the friction in the inlet piping...You already show the term for it.
 


So the Head loss in the suction line will be the frictional head loss which is the 1.2m value given in the question..

Also The formula is H(v) = u^2/2g
[where u = Q/pi*r^2]

Therefore when calculating Q, i must divide by 3600 and also multiply by radius squared and Pi and After converting Q to m3/s,

My final answer for the velocity head is 9 x 10-3
 


Your NPSHa looks good. I get .022 for the velocity head though.
 


Thanks Fred,

I reworked my solution to the velocity head and got an answer of 0.02281m also..

Converting my u value to m3/hr involved 4000/846 then multiplying by 3600 and the area
 

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