Pure Math & Phys: Aleks' Experience and Advice

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The discussion revolves around Aleks' transition from Engineering Physics to a double honors program in Mathematics and Physics with a minor in Computer Science. Participants share their experiences and offer advice regarding the challenges and opportunities associated with this academic shift, particularly focusing on employability and the integration of computer science with mathematics and physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Aleks expresses skepticism about the decision to switch fields, citing a lack of practical skills and a late realization of interest in pure math.
  • Some participants suggest that a minor in computer science may enhance employability despite concerns about job prospects in mathematics.
  • One participant mentions that while finding strictly math-related jobs may be challenging, there are various employment opportunities available for math graduates.
  • Aleks seeks advice on study strategies, experiences in graduate school versus industry, and reflections on the decision to pursue this academic path.
  • Another participant discusses the possibility of completing a minor in computer science during graduate studies and questions the adequacy of programming knowledge gained from a limited number of courses.
  • Participants reflect on the enjoyment of pursuing more math and physics courses compared to engineering disciplines.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the implications of Aleks' decision regarding employability, as some participants believe job opportunities exist while others express skepticism. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to balancing mathematics, physics, and computer science studies.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the potential challenges of transitioning into advanced mathematics courses without a strong foundation from earlier studies. There are also varying opinions on the necessity and effectiveness of additional computer science courses for enhancing job prospects.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students considering a shift in their academic focus towards mathematics and physics, particularly those contemplating the integration of computer science into their studies and career paths.

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I have recently switched from Eng Phys to Math and Phys (double honours) with minor in Comp Sc. to start in the next semester, my 2nd year. I can imagine how anyone could mention that I threw most of my chances for a normal, based on employement life. What can I say? I just couldn't help it:-p? However, I must say that my interest (interest of the type that makes you want to take pure math in University) in pure math is of a young age. It was only recently, almost a semester or so, that I realized how much I enjoyed pure math, and problem solving. So I am a little skeptical that I might have been premature about this. Do not wrongly assume that I have made this enormous transformation solely based on this though. I know myself this much to perfectly realize that I am not Eng 'material'. Just a small example: my mom knows how to fix cars (yes, I know, you don't see this often). I remember that when I was a kid, she used to call me to the garage wanting to teach me. The truth is that I have never been interested in such a thing. Not only that, I know that I'm not a practical kind of person.

Moving on, I must admit that I will have to struggle in my 2nd year (the one that starts) due to missing first year pure math dosis. Especially, since this year will start with 4 pure math classes, and one phys. They are: Calculus and Introductory Analysis, Algebra, Ordinary Diff Eqn, Probability, Modern Phys. All of them honours 2nd year level. I am currently going through some calc and algebra proofs, as well as doing assignments of the previous calc and algebra classes, posted on the classes's websites. You might want to go ahead and reference me to some useful online material. If you have one in mind, please do.

Knowing that many of you have been seduced almost equally by both subjects to the point where you have become, er, 'academic bigamists', I would be grateful if you could share some of your past or current experiences, as well as provide me with any advice. How do you study? Did you go to grad school or to industry right away? What would you say are my employment options outside of academia (I don't think the answer will surprise me...)? Looking back, are you confident such a decision was right?Anything else?

Thanks so much.

Aleks.
 
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Oops, maybe I should have posted this in Mathwonk's thread.:biggrin:
 
well perhaps the minor in compsci will compensate the loss of empolyability... (-:

anyway, well come aboard to the mathphys nutcase students, where we actually do want more and more courses on maths and physics as opposed to engineering and other discplines...
 
loop quantum gravity said:
well perhaps the minor in compsci will compensate the loss of empolyability... (-:

anyway, well come aboard to the mathphys nutcase students, where we actually do want more and more courses on maths and physics as opposed to engineering and other discplines...

I'll get into the 81 credit joint honours in math-phys at mcgill next year, so that gives me 9 credits, about 3 course to take cs. Is it possible to finish a minor during first year of grad school or something ? I'm wondering if i'll know enough programming with that small number of courses.
 
You can get jobs, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

It might be hard to find a strict math related job (almost impossible), but companies will hire you for all sorts of other things. My major is in mathematics, and I feel as though getting a job shouldn't be hard at all.

So, you didn't throw anything out the door. That's is just your perception. Wait until you're in like 4th year and you start looking for jobs. Many jobs out there.
 
Yes I guess comp sc would come in handy. gab_6666, in that case I would probably end up taking a few more comp courses in the summer. BTW, I'm just not taking Comp out of the need for future security (jobs), I find that problem solving in comp require considerable logical thinking. It reminds me of pure math.

JasonRox, wow, that was kind of unexpected:eek:. Thanks
 
Also gab_6666, if you have good grades, you can always ask them to replace the comp course of the comp minor with another similar (although harder) comp class that people in the comp major take. It should be more fun. (hopefully):wink: Although, yeah, this is not of the essence.
 

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