Purpose of fourier series and fourier transform

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The discussion revolves around understanding the purpose and representation of Fourier series and Fourier transforms, particularly in the context of signal analysis. Participants explore the differences between these two mathematical tools, focusing on their applications to periodic and aperiodic signals.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the meaning of the Fourier transform and its representation in the frequency domain, questioning what the function represents and its significance. Other participants compare the Fourier series and Fourier transform, discussing the nature of frequency components and the implications of using continuous versus discrete representations.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying definitions and correcting misconceptions about the representation of the Fourier transform. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the function in the frequency domain, but there remains a lack of consensus on specific notations and interpretations.

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There are ongoing discussions about the correct notation for the Fourier transform, with some participants questioning assumptions about the reality of the function X and its implications for signal analysis. The conversation reflects a mix of perspectives from different engineering texts.

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Hi I'm trying to understand what we mean when we say that the Fourier transform is used to transform a signal from the time domain to the frequency domain and what we actually have in the frequency domain.

In Fourier series we are actually using a different representation of the signal in terms of the sum of harmonically related sinusoids which is very important in signal and system analysis

but in Fourier transform, we use it mostly for aperiodic signals right?

but what exactly does this function represent?

X(j\omega)= \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} x(t) e^{-j \omega t} dt

we have a function in the frequency domain, so in the x-axis we will have values for \omega while on the y-axis this function, which represents what exactly? and why is it so important?

can you please explain in the most simple words? thanks :)
 
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First, it should be X(w), not X(jw). X is always real.

The Fourier integral does for a single pulse what the Fourier series do to a periodic function going from -∞ to +∞. By graphing X(w) vs. w you get a picture of the relative frequency components in x(t), just as the coefficients of the harmonics in a Fourier series give you the magnitude of each freq. component. In the case of the Fourier integral, though, you have a CONTINUOUS spectrum, whereas the series give a LINE spectrum (harmonics of the basic frequency 1/period only).

The Fourier integral is especially useful if you want to know the effects of limited bandwidth on an input signal. The inverse F.I. let's you do that elegantly by just replacing the infinity limits by + and -w0, where w0 is the radian bandwidth.
 
It's the same idea. Compare the exponential form of the Fourier series to the Fourier integral:
\begin{align*}
f(t) &= \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty c_n e^{in\omega t} \\
g(t) &= \int_{-\infty}^\infty G(\omega) e^{i\omega t} \, d\omega
\end{align*}(Depending on your convention, there could be factors of 2 pi floating around.) Both are a sum of exponentials. For periodic signals, you only need the frequency components corresponding to multiples of the fundamental frequency. For an aperiodic signal, you need all of the frequencies. Just as cn represents how much the nth harmonic contributes and its relative phase, G(ω) represents the amplitude and phase of the frequency component ω.
 
rude man said:
First, it should be X(w), not X(jw). X is always real.
I've seen some engineering texts where its written as X(jω).

X is generally not real as it contains both phase and amplitude information.
 
vela said:
I've seen some engineering texts where its written as X(jω).

X is generally not real as it contains both phase and amplitude information.

X is always real. Fin d'histoire.

Or maybe not. I may have to eat crow on this one. Will check it out.

Anyway, for a rectangular pulse, for example, X is real, and writing X(jw) is clearly in error.

OK, I concede defeat. X is in general complex. It's real only if f(t) is even.

However, it is STILL wrong to write X(jw).

http://s-mat-pcs.oulu.fi/~ssa/ESignals/sig2_2.htm
 
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