Pursuing a PhD in Physics: Should I Perservere or Give Up?

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The discussion revolves around the considerations and challenges of pursuing a PhD in physics, particularly in the context of personal motivation and mental health. Participants explore the implications of passion versus enjoyment in research, the difficulties of graduate school, and the impact of mood disorders on academic performance and decision-making.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their lack of enjoyment in physics and questions whether they should continue pursuing a PhD.
  • Another participant suggests that passion for physics is essential but distinguishes it from enjoyment, implying that enduring challenges is part of the PhD experience.
  • Some participants highlight the inevitability of bad days during graduate school and emphasize the importance of resilience and balance outside of academia.
  • A later reply notes that the type of research (theoretical vs. experimental) may influence the participant's experience and motivation in a PhD program.
  • Concerns about the impact of a mood disorder on motivation are raised, with one participant suggesting that seeking professional help could be beneficial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of passion for pursuing a PhD, with some suggesting it is essential while others argue that resilience and the ability to cope with challenges are more critical. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the influence of personal mental health on motivation and decision-making, but there is no consensus on how to address these challenges in the context of pursuing a PhD.

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Hello,

For a long time my ambition has been to do research in biophysics, and since I am entering the final year of my physics degree I need to start thinking about doing a PhD. The problem though, is that I'm worried I don't enjoy physics enough to spend the rest of my life doing research.

From reading other posts on doing a PhD, it seems that being passionate about doing physics is essential. I consider doing research in physics to be very important and meaningful but I just can't get passionate about doing it, no matter how hard I try. There are very few other things in life I find interesting and I would describe myself as being most talented at doing physics, despite my apparent lack of motivation. To complicate things further still I suffer from chronic mild depression and OCD, which may be killing my motivation and making me doubt myself so much.

Other than that I've been achieving top marks in my modules so far and set to get a first when I graduate with an undergraduate masters in physics. My supervisor has also been impressed with the research I've been doing for my masters project. There are also times when I genuinely love what I'm doing to the extent that I spend most of my free time doing research.

Should I perservere and hope that I become interested in physics again, or just give up?

Thanks
 
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Proteoglycan said:
The problem though, is that I'm worried I don't enjoy physics enough to spend the rest of my life doing research.

I think the question is are you an intellectual masochist.

Something that you should know going in is that getting a Ph.D. is hard, and you'll have bad days, and sometimes really bad days in which you hate your dissertation, your advisor, and your life. It helps going into know that you will have bad days, that way you aren't surprised when they happen. However, you'll also have good days, when things just magically work and you've figured out something that you didn't know before.

From reading other posts on doing a PhD, it seems that being passionate about doing physics is essential.

Passion is different from enjoyment. One thing to remember is that the term passion originally referred to the suffering Christ went through when he got nailed to the cross.

There are also times when I genuinely love what I'm doing to the extent that I spend most of my free time doing research.

Should I perservere and hope that I become interested in physics again, or just give up?

The question that you need to ask yourself is can you get through five to seven years of graduate school to get to the Ph.D. If you can get yourself into the lab, and you can imagine doing this for a largish number of years, then it's an option.
 
twofish-quant said:
I think the question is are you an intellectual masochist.

Something that you should know going in is that getting a Ph.D. is hard, and you'll have bad days, and sometimes really bad days in which you hate your dissertation, your advisor, and your life. It helps going into know that you will have bad days, that way you aren't surprised when they happen. However, you'll also have good days, when things just magically work and you've figured out something that you didn't know before.

I don't think it is a necessary condition that you be a masochist (to derive pleasure from your own suffering). But if you are not, you will need to be able to shrug the bad days off. You will need to be able to find balance outside of grad school. Because the bad days can be REALLY bad in grad school. The good days can be great, however.



The question that you need to ask yourself is can you get through five to seven years of graduate school to get to the Ph.D. If you can get yourself into the lab, and you can imagine doing this for a largish number of years, then it's an option.

This is spot on, imo. You have tasted what research is about. Can you imagine doing something similar for the next 6 years?
 
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Thanks for the replies, I think my lack of motivation at the moment may be down to my mood disorder so hopefully it might improve in time. At the moment I'm making an extra effort to do more research for my masters project to try and get some of my enthusiasm back.

Also, is the type of research for a PhD an important thing to consider? I'm thinking that I might do better in more theoretical / computational than experimental work.
 
Are you seeing a councillor about that mood disorder? Sounds like a course of CBT might be in order. Try reading "CBT for Dummies", or (better) have a chat with your GP.
 

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