Pursuing Physics Degree (in the Evening): Is It Possible?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the feasibility of pursuing a physics degree while maintaining a full-time job, particularly through night classes or online programs. Participants explore the motivations for pursuing a physics degree, the challenges of balancing work and study, and the potential career implications of such a path.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to pursue a physics degree to satisfy curiosity and enhance career prospects in finance, specifically in derivatives trading.
  • Another participant argues that a Ph.D. in physics may not be the best route to becoming a derivatives trader and suggests networking within the finance industry instead.
  • Some participants mention online universities like Thomas Edison State College and Open University as potential options for obtaining a physics degree, though there are concerns about the effectiveness and recognition of such programs.
  • A participant shares their experience with Open University, noting the flexibility of the program but also expressing concern about the costs involved.
  • One participant cautions that motivations such as wanting to "feel smart" or make money may not be sufficient for the challenges of completing a physics Ph.D., emphasizing the rigorous nature of the program.
  • There is a suggestion to consider community colleges for introductory physics courses as a more accessible starting point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to pursuing a physics degree while working full-time. There are differing opinions on the viability of online programs and the motivations for pursuing advanced degrees in physics.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the recognition of online degrees and the potential challenges of balancing work and study. There are also concerns about the financial implications of pursuing a degree through non-traditional routes.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a career change to physics, those exploring online education options, and anyone interested in the intersection of finance and physics may find this discussion relevant.

CuriousBanker
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Ok let me preface this a little without getting lauged at.

I posted on here twice before. I am a banker, with an undergrad degree in business/economics (total joke). I am mostly interested in physics because 1) I am always curious about how everything works 2) my girlfriend is a chemistry major and I always feel stupid around her (even though she thinks I am smarter than her).

I do actually enjoy finance but I am very unsatisfied with my understanding of the world. So, combining these two ideas, I think the best route is to go back for a physics undergrad degree, and then eventually get a phd. I am 23 now..I figured I could finish my phd by 33. With the phd, I will have the knowledge I want, feel smart, and then I can go back to finance and make even more money. With a business degree, banking experience, and a phd in physics, I think I can easily land a job as a derivatives trader, making a lot of money. Although money is not as important to me as it is to most bankers, I like to make a lot of money, and I am ok with sacrificing years if it means I will make money down the road. There are so many things I want to learn in life...after physics I would probably take an interest in chemistry, engineering, or computer science, or maybe even fitness which I really love.

Anywho, so I checked out all of the colleges near me...there is NO way to take night classes and major in physics. The latest science classes are 4pm. I cannot afford to quit my dayjob for my passion. I need nightclasses.

I have always regarded online universities as a joke, mostly because the people I know who take them are all lazy/stupid.

However, are there any online universities that offer physics majors that I can take on nights and weekends? Any suggestions for which are best, and if it is worth it? Also, would I be able to get a phd later in life, or would grad programs laugh at me? I am wondering if it is possible to do this, without having a lab.

Thanks in advance!
 
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CuriousBanker said:
With a business degree, banking experience, and a phd in physics, I think I can easily land a job as a derivatives trader, making a lot of money.

A Ph.D. in physics is a terrible way to get a job as a derivatives trader (and besides derivatives trading is dying anyway and could be totally dead by the time you get your Ph.D.).

You are more likely to get there if you internally network. Find any excuse you can to get close to the front desk.

However, are there any online universities that offer physics majors that I can take on nights and weekends?

You might be able to do something with Thomas Edison State College or Open University. The trouble with that path is that I don't know of anyone who has done it.
 
I looked into the Open University when I was applying for degree courses, and although the syllabus looked similar to the traditional university course (unsurprisingly I suppose) the cost shocked me. I think I probably would have gone for it if I'd not been able to afford to be a full-time student. I too don't know anyone who has done a whole degree through the OU, but people who have done other short courses and been very happy with the whole experience. The flexibility is a major plus!
 
CuriousBanker said:
... So, combining these two ideas, I think the best route is to go back for a physics undergrad degree, and then eventually get a phd. I am 23 now..I figured I could finish my phd by 33. With the phd, I will have the knowledge I want, feel smart, and then I can go back to finance and make even more money. ...
After a few years of reading posts on this forum, I can confidently state that wanting to "feel smart" and "make more money" will be woefully inadequate motivators for finishing a graduate degree in physics. I realize you're curious about how things work, but you do not need to get a Ph.D. to obtain a reasonable understanding of the physical laws to which we're subjected. Many community colleges offer night courses; you should see if an introductory physics course is available.

I'm not trying to discourage you to the point of giving up, but I don't think you understand how grueling the road ahead is going to be. A Ph.D. in physics isn't really something you just pick up to build your résumé and/or self-esteem. There's a lot of failure involved, which is often too much for even the most passionate students. I wish you the best of luck in your quest for knowledge. :smile:
 
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