Q: How does the speed of thinking affect our perception and sense of self?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the speed of thinking and its implications for perception and sense of self. Participants explore various aspects of thinking speed, including its variability, limits, and comparisons to computational processes in computers and neural networks.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant poses a question regarding the speed of thinking, offering multiple-choice options ranging from infinite to zero.
  • Another participant discusses a mathematical model that suggests there is an upper limit to how fast neurons can synchronize, influenced by the complexity of neural connections.
  • Some participants propose that thinking speed is limited and variable, depending on the type of thinking and individual differences.
  • A participant mentions the impact of distractions on thinking speed, suggesting that interruptions can significantly slow down cognitive processing.
  • Comparisons are made between the computational capabilities of the human brain and computers, with some arguing that while computers excel in raw speed, the human brain performs more complex tasks simultaneously.
  • There is a discussion about the difference between computational ability and speed, with some participants asserting that humans have advantages in associating concepts while computers are superior in raw calculations.
  • Several participants express differing views on whether the brain's computational power is fully utilized during problem-solving tasks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the speed of thinking, with no clear consensus on its nature or limits. Some agree on the variability of thinking speed, while others contest the comparisons made between human and computer processing capabilities.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion is speculative and dependent on various assumptions about neural activity, cognitive processes, and the definitions of speed and computational ability.

  • #31
Adam said:
Tribdog, no offence, but I think you have absolutely no idea about either comptuers or the human brain. Answer a simple question. Do you, or do you not, see images in your mind, of great complexity and detail? If no, I suggest seeking professional assistance. If yes, then do those images appear and move on faster than can be produced by any computer? Ad hominems do not interest me. Answer the question.
You are right I have no idea what a comptuer is.
To answer your question,no my brain can't produce images faster than a computer and neither can yours. Sure it takes a long time to render a complex, detailed 3D picture, but you can't render something like that in your head. most pictures you "see" in your head are either 1) something you've already seen (a computer can pull up an already rendered picture extremely fast) 2)not nearly as detailed as you are describing. Sure you might be able to describe every detail of something you see in your head but you aren't really seeing it. you can imagine a cow in your head and maybe invision a cow shape, then you may be able to zoom in on different aspects of it for more detail but you probably fool yourself into thinking you can "see" that cow. Sure you can describe the details of what you know is there, but that isn't the same as rendering a 3D image. If you want to claim that your imagination is as detailed as a fully rendered computer animation go ahead, but you'll only be fooling yourself.
 
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  • #32
Actually thinking about it, and THIS time I'm being serious, I think my brain projects 'video images' slower than my computer does... when I think about events, they always occur slower than they did in real time. That can't be good can it? my brain is inefficient. But then that could be the Barbary Ape in me...
 
  • #33
Have you tried downloading the new microsoft patch?
I too had a slow brain, but now I am able to see things in real time. I wasn't sure if I trusted this download, but I've experienced no billgatesisgod side effects whatsoever. Once you get used to the flying window rash your brain runs better linuxsucks than it ever has before.
 
  • #34
i keep getting worms from these new patches... AND i keep crashing... any suggestions?
 
  • #35
hmm, that is strange. I just know that you must not be downloading from a Microsoft certified site. All programs from Microsoft are totally bug free and only make your brain better, stronger and faster. I'd like to quote from the ground breaking blockbuster "Passion of the Gates" if I may. "billionaro es mi, billionaro ante billionaro lickus mi buttockus" (which roughly translates into "For I so loved the Internet I have given it my one and only integrated desktop browser")
If you still experience crashes after getting the one true certified patch, look for hardware conflicts. Have you installed or inserted anything into one of your body's openings recently?
 
  • #36
well actually i DID insert a chip right up my... NO NO NO!
 
  • #37
1) Please read the figures already provided. You may learn something.

2) Please check through the material here: http://www.calstatela.edu/faculty/nthomas/mi-lnks.htm and here: http://www.calstatela.edu/faculty/nthomas/index.htm You may learn something.
 
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  • #38
...i stopped learning a long time ago, i have everything i will ever need to know. Anyway, I'm a child of the 21st century, we don't learn, we churn. Who needs to remember things when you can look on the net and find it when you need it. God bless Al Gore for inventing it.
 
  • #39
you are absolutely right jp
Gates bless Al Gore
 
  • #40
Hi! I forgot to mention my openion. I think it is infinite.
 
  • #41
There is a psychatric illness in which one feels that his mind is being read by others and he tries his best not to transmitt it or to hide his innerself and he ends up with the realization that his mind has been emptyed.
.................
This was the case with me and now I'm used to it.
 

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