The QCD vacuum condensate which breaks chiral symmetry in qcd, also break the SU(2) electoweak gauge symmtery, right? The operator which gets a vacuum expectation value isn't SU(2) invariant since it is built out of left handed quarks and right handed quarks which are in different representations of SU(2). This should contribute about ~100MeV the W and Z masses. Why is this never taken into account in EWPT? because the condensate should be the same for up and down type quarks, I would think it woudn't contibute to the T parameter (isospin symmetry), But it should contribute to the S parameter. Is this simply negligible, or I've got it all wrong?