QFT: Bogolyiubov transformations and KG inner product

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of Bogoliubov coefficients for a (1+1) scalar field decomposed into different sets of modes corresponding to Minkowski and Rindler frames. Participants explore the use of the Klein-Gordon invariant inner product for this calculation, particularly in the context of a Dirichlet box constraint on the field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Joe seeks guidance on calculating Bogoliubov coefficients using the Klein-Gordon inner product, noting the challenge of working with modes in different coordinates.
  • One participant suggests consulting Birrell & Davies for relevant information.
  • Joe clarifies that the field is constrained to a Dirichlet box, which complicates the use of null coordinates for the problem.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the implications of the Dirichlet box constraint and suggests that a thorough exploration of the problem may be beneficial.
  • Joe mentions successfully calculating the integral involved in the process and offers to share the solution if there is interest.
  • Another participant expresses interest in the solution but indicates a lack of time for detailed study at the moment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to the problem, with differing views on the relevance of null coordinates and the implications of the Dirichlet box constraint remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the applicability of the Klein-Gordon inner product in different coordinate systems and the specific boundary conditions imposed by the Dirichlet box, which may affect the calculations.

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Hi,

I was wondering if someone could help me with the following:

I have a (1+1) scalar field decomposed into two different sets of modes. One set corresponds to a Minkowski frame in (t,x) coordinates, the other to a Rinder frame in conformal (##\tau,\bar{\xi}##) coordinates. I know that I need to calculate the bogoliubov coefficients using the Klein Gordon invariante inner product

##(\phi_1,\phi_2)=i\int dx(\phi_1^*\frac{\partial{\phi_2}}{\partial{dx^0}}-\frac{\partial{\phi_1^*}}{\partial{dx^0}}\phi_2)##

How should approach this calculation in my case, where the modes are expressed in different coordinates?

I am not after an easy answer, just some guidance, so thanks in advanced. Any references I could get some furthur reading would be great too! Anything that helps furthur my understanding of QFT.

Thanks again,

Joe.
 
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Have you tried Birrell & Davies, sect 4.5?
 
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. I checked it out, but my problem is slightly different. The field is constrained to a Dirichlet box so I'm not sure it null coordinates are the most convenient for the problem, that's why I was going to try and compute the coefficients via de inner product.

I will give it another read.

Thanks again!
 
Joey21 said:
The field is constrained to a Dirichlet box
Not exactly sure what you mean.

Disclaimer: I have not worked through this (nor the ordinary Rindler space) problem pen-in-hand, but only skim-studied B&D. It could be worthwhile to work through this problem properly, if you have the stamina to type a lot more latex in detail...
 
OK, let me explain.

With a the filed being confined to a Dirichlet box I mean the field is constrained to a 1D box with boundary conditions such that the field is 0 at the edges.

I managed to calculate the integral, its as simple as using the chain rule when you calculate the derivative. I was overworked at the time of posting, so sorry for that.

Thanks again for the help.

P.S If anyone is interested I can type up or scan the solution.
 
Joey21 said:
If anyone is interested I can type up or scan the solution.
I am interested -- but I don't have much spare time for close study right now. I.e., I'd be interested in returning to this later, but I don't expect you to put excessive extra effort into this unless you feel inspired to do so... :oldbiggrin:
 

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