QM: Is this a Spherical Harmonic Identity?

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The discussion centers around a specific expression from Landau and Lifgarbagez's Quantum Mechanics regarding spherical harmonics and their properties in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of a differential operator on spherical harmonics, particularly focusing on how the angular momentum quantum numbers \( l \) and \( m \) are affected.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the expression provided can be proved, particularly regarding the change in the quantum number \( l \) while keeping \( m \) constant when applying the differential operator.
  • Another participant suggests that expressing cosine in terms of spherical harmonics and utilizing a formula involving products of spherical harmonics may be necessary to understand the identity.
  • A later reply acknowledges the suggestion and expresses gratitude for the insight, indicating a collaborative exploration of the topic.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the proof of the identity. There are multiple viewpoints on how to approach the problem, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the proof.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully detailed the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in their reasoning, leaving some aspects of the discussion open to interpretation.

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Hi,

I came across the following expression in Landau and Lifgarbagez's Quantum Mechanics (Non-relativistic Theory) book:

[tex] \left(\cos\theta\frac{\partial}{\partial r} - \frac{\sin\theta}{r}\frac{\partial}{\partial\theta}\right)R_{nl}(r)Y_{l0}(\theta,\phi) = -\frac{i(l+1)}{\sqrt{4(l+1)^2-1}}\left[R_{nl}'-\frac{l}{r}R_{nl}\right]Y_{l-1,0} + \frac{i l}{\sqrt{4 l^2-1}}\left[R_{nl}' + \frac{l+1}{r}R_{nl}\right]Y_{l-1,0}[/tex]

I don't see how this can be proved...is it using some cool recurrence relation or something, because I don't get it if I write

[tex] \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta} = \frac{1}{2\hbar}(e^{-i\phi} \hat{L}_{+} - e^{i\phi}\hat{L}_{-})[/tex]

Any [itex]\partial/\partial\theta[/itex] can only change the m value, but not the l value, because it involves [itex]\hat{L}_{\pm}[/itex].

How does the l value change, and the m value remain constant, as an outcome of the particular differential operator [itex]\partial/\partial z[/itex]?

Thanks in advance.
 
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w/o going into details: I guess one must express the cosine in terms of spherical harmonics and use a formula involving the products of spherical harmonics
 
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tom.stoer said:
w/o going into details: I guess one must express the cosine in terms of spherical harmonics and use a formula invoving the products oof spherical harmincs

Ahhh...yes, of course, thanks Tom! This never occurred to me.
 
your welcome (and sorry for the terrible typos)
 

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