Quantum Cell Phones - Investigating the Possibilities

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the concept of using quantum mechanics for cell phone technology, specifically the idea of utilizing entangled particles for instantaneous communication. Participants examine the feasibility and implications of this approach, touching on theoretical and practical aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a model where entangled particles in a cell phone and a tower could enable instantaneous communication by transmitting information through particle movement.
  • The same participant acknowledges a fundamental flaw in their idea, noting that information cannot be sent via entangled pairs.
  • Another participant agrees with the previous point and adds that coherent states tend to decohere quickly in the environment, questioning the practicality of maintaining entanglement for communication.
  • A later reply expresses surprise at the lack of discussion on this topic, indicating a perception that the concept seemed obvious at first glance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the limitations of using entangled particles for communication, particularly regarding the inability to send information through entanglement and the rapid decoherence of quantum states. However, the initial proposal remains a point of exploration without a consensus on its viability.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the assumptions about information transmission via entanglement and the environmental factors affecting coherence, which remain unresolved.

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Quantum "Cell Phones?"

Earlier today, I was thinking, what if we could use Quantum mechanics to have lighting fast cell phone access? How it could work is you could have one particle in the Cell Phone tower (which could now be just a room.) That was entangled with the particle in your cell phone. Then, when you get a call, the callers particle vibrates, rotates, etc. in a way that tells the cell phone tower to move your cell phones particle in such a way that then moves the particle in your cell phone. You cell phone picks up the movement, you can answer it, and go on with your conversation (there could be some sort of system where if a particle moves one way, its a 1, and if it moves another way, its a 0, and use a binary system.)

I've been thinking about this all day, and now that it's on paper, I can see its flaws.
 
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Willis666 said:
Earlier today, I was thinking, what if we could use Quantum mechanics to have lighting fast cell phone access? How it could work is you could have one particle in the Cell Phone tower (which could now be just a room.) That was entangled with the particle in your cell phone. Then, when you get a call, the callers particle vibrates, rotates, etc. in a way that tells the cell phone tower to move your cell phones particle in such a way that then moves the particle in your cell phone. You cell phone picks up the movement, you can answer it, and go on with your conversation (there could be some sort of system where if a particle moves one way, its a 1, and if it moves another way, its a 0, and use a binary system.)

I've been thinking about this all day, and now that it's on paper, I can see its flaws.

It's most basic flaw is that it presumes that information can be sent via entangled pairs, which it cannot.
 


What phinds said.

Not to mention that coherent states very rapidly decohere in the environment. Any entanglement wouldn't last long enough to be useful.
 


Okay thanks. I was wondering why I never heard anything about it, through my understanding at the time, It seemed kind of obvious.
 

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