Quantum Gravity: Photons, Electromagnetic Radiation & the Universe

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The discussion centers on the gravitational effects of photons and electromagnetic radiation in the universe. While photons possess relativistic mass and theoretically create a gravitational field, their overall gravitational influence is negligible compared to ordinary matter. The consensus is that the stress-energy from photons, including that from starlight and the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR), is insufficient to account for the observed gravitational effects or the accelerating expansion of the universe. Only dark energy is capable of driving this acceleration, as stress-energy from radiation and ordinary matter actually slows expansion.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of relativistic mass and gravitational fields
  • Familiarity with electromagnetic radiation and its properties
  • Knowledge of dark energy and its role in cosmic expansion
  • Basic concepts of stress-energy in physics
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the role of dark energy in the universe's expansion
  • Study the properties and implications of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR)
  • Explore the concept of stress-energy in general relativity
  • Investigate the differences between ordinary matter, dark matter, and dark energy
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Astronomers, physicists, cosmologists, and anyone interested in understanding the gravitational dynamics of the universe and the role of electromagnetic radiation in cosmic phenomena.

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We know that a photon has no mass, but has relativistic mass - which means in theory, a photon will have a gravitational field.

What is the total possible gravitational affect of all photons (and electromagnetic radiation) emitted from the stars in the universe?

Could this account for the gravity seen in the universe – which cannot be explained by ordinary matter?
And could this explain the accelerating expansion of the universe, instead of the dark matter and dark energy interaction that's otherwise predicted?
 
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backenvelope said:
We know that a photon has no mass, but has relativistic mass

A better term would be "energy" (still better would be "stress-energy").

backenvelope said:
Wwhich means in theory, a photon will have a gravitational field.

Yes.

backenvelope said:
What is the total possible gravitational affect of all photons (and electromagnetic radiation) emitted from the stars in the universe?

Very small; several orders of magnitude smaller than the effect of the ordinary matter. (Actually, AFAIK the largest component of the stress-energy of photons and EM radiation comes from the CMBR; the amount of stress-energy in starlight is considerably smaller than that.)

backenvelope said:
Could this account for the gravity seen in the universe – which cannot be explained by ordinary matter?

No. It's way too small.

backenvelope said:
And could this explain the accelerating expansion of the universe, instead of the dark matter and dark energy interaction that's otherwise predicted?

No. Stress-energy due to radiation can't cause an accelerating expansion, any more than stress-energy from ordinary matter can. (Dark matter can't either; only dark energy can.)
 
PeterDonis said:
No. Stress-energy due to radiation can't cause an accelerating expansion, any more than stress-energy from ordinary matter can. (Dark matter can't either; only dark energy can.)
In fact, radiation causes the expansion to slow even more than normal matter does.
 

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