Quantum mechanics, adding a phase factor

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The discussion revolves around the implications of adding a constant phase factor to the wave function in quantum mechanics when a constant is added to the potential energy. The original poster presents a question related to the time evolution of a wave function and how it is affected by this addition, specifically in the context of expectation values of dynamical variables.

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  • Participants discuss the time-dependent Schrödinger equation and the separation of variables method. The original poster considers using a specific form for the wave function and seeks guidance on how to proceed with the problem. Questions arise about the effect of shifting the zero of energy and how to interpret the resulting phase factor in the wave function.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing hints and suggestions for exploring the time evolution of the wave function. There is an ongoing examination of how the addition of a constant to the potential influences the wave function and the expectation values, though no consensus has been reached on the final interpretation or calculations.

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The original poster expresses confusion regarding quantum mechanics concepts and the implications of the phase factor on expectation values. There is an acknowledgment of the need to refer back to textbook material for foundational understanding.

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Here's the question:

1. In classical mechanics, we know that the evolution of a system, that is the trajectories of the particles and objects, does not depend on where we chose the xero-point of the potential energy. Here we analyse what happens in quantum mechanics. Assume that you add a constant C0 to the potential energy of an arbitrary potential V(x)

Show that the wave function now differs from the one you would get without the C0 added by having a phase factor [tex]e^{-i \frac{C_0 t}{\hbar}}[/tex] multiplied to it.
How will this phase-factor affect the expectation value of a dynamical variable?



So I was thinking of using: [tex]\Psi (x,t) = \psi (x) \varphi (x)[/tex]
to solve it.

Can someone guide me through this (like with a hint or 2)? I'm quite confused about quantum mechanics.
 
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Start with an eigenstate ##\psi## of a Hamiltonian ##\hat{H}##, with eigenenergy ##E##. What is the time evolution of ##\psi##? (This should be in your textbook.)

Then, arbitrarily shift the zero of energy by ##C_0##. How is the time evolution of ##\psi## affected?

Then, calculate the expectation value of an operator ##\hat{A}##,
$$
\langle \hat{A} \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi(x,t)^* \hat{A} \psi(x,t) dx
$$
for both wave functions (energy shifted and not shifted), and compare.
 
DrClaude said:
Start with an eigenstate ##\psi## of a Hamiltonian ##\hat{H}##, with eigenenergy ##E##. What is the time evolution of ##\psi##? (This should be in your textbook.)

Then, arbitrarily shift the zero of energy by ##C_0##. How is the time evolution of ##\psi## affected?

Then, calculate the expectation value of an operator ##\hat{A}##,
$$
\langle \hat{A} \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi(x,t)^* \hat{A} \psi(x,t) dx
$$
for both wave functions (energy shifted and not shifted), and compare.

Sorry, I'm not getting what you mean. Maybe I should have posted this in the Introductory Physics section of this forum.

In my textbook, it says I can use a separation of variables to solve the Schrödinger equation.
[tex]\Psi (x,t) = \psi (x) + \varphi (t)[/tex]


[tex]i \hbar \dfrac{\partial \Psi (x,t)}{\partial t} = -\dfrac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \dfrac{\partial ^2 \Psi (x,t)}{\partial x^2} + V \Psi (x,t)[/tex]

[tex]i \hbar \psi (x) \dfrac{\partial \varphi (t)}{\partial t} = -\dfrac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \dfrac{\partial ^2 \psi (x)}{\partial x^2} \varphi (t) + V \psi (x) \varphi (t)[/tex]

And then dividing through by ##\psi (x) + \varphi (t) ## I will get:

[tex]i \hbar \dfrac{1}{\varphi (t)} \dfrac{\partial \varphi (t)}{\partial t} = -\dfrac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \dfrac{1}{\psi (x)} \dfrac{\partial ^2 \psi (x)}{\partial x^2} + V[/tex]

It then uses a separation constant E to separate out the left and right hand sides (since one depends on time and the other depends on position).

[tex]E = -\dfrac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \dfrac{1}{\psi (x)} \dfrac{\partial ^2 \psi (x)}{\partial x^2} + V[/tex]


So I guess what you're saying is to multiply everything by ## \psi (x) ## whch will give me:

[tex]E \psi (x) = -\dfrac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \dfrac{\partial ^2 \psi (x)}{\partial x^2} + V \psi (x)[/tex]

And the right hand side can be defined as the Hamiltonian operator ## \hat{H} ## with an eigenstate ## \psi (x) ##

[tex]E \psi (x) = \hat{H} \psi (x)[/tex]

And the time evolution of ## \psi (x) ## is constant because it is only dependent on position and not time?

"Then, arbitrarily shift the zero of energy by C0. How is the time evolution of ψ affected?"
What do you mean? I'm confused as to where to go from here.
Do I add C0 to V which will give me:
[tex](E + C_0) \psi (x) = -\dfrac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \dfrac{\partial ^2 \psi (x)}{\partial x^2} + (V+C_0) \psi (x)[/tex]
and then solve this second order differential equation?
 
You're getting along fine. You just need to go back to the time-dependent Schrödinger equation (TDSE) to get the full wave function:

Cogswell said:
[tex]i \hbar \dfrac{1}{\varphi (t)} \dfrac{\partial \varphi (t)}{\partial t} = -\dfrac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \dfrac{1}{\psi (x)} \dfrac{\partial ^2 \psi (x)}{\partial x^2} + V[/tex]

It then uses a separation constant E to separate out the left and right hand sides (since one depends on time and the other depends on position).

[tex]E = -\dfrac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \dfrac{1}{\psi (x)} \dfrac{\partial ^2 \psi (x)}{\partial x^2} + V[/tex]

[...]

[tex]E \psi (x) = \hat{H} \psi (x)[/tex]
Indeed, for ##\psi (x)## an eigenfunction of ##\hat{H}##, the separation constant ##E## is the energy. Use this to solve for ##\varphi(t)## in the equation above.

Cogswell said:
"Then, arbitrarily shift the zero of energy by C0. How is the time evolution of ψ affected?"
What do you mean? I'm confused as to where to go from here.
Do I add C0 to V which will give me:
[tex](E + C_0) \psi (x) = -\dfrac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \dfrac{\partial ^2 \psi (x)}{\partial x^2} + (V+C_0) \psi (x)[/tex]
and then solve this second order differential equation?
Yes, it corresponds to that equation, but you don't need to actually solve it. Again go back to solving for ##\varphi(t)##, and see how the full, time-dependent wave function chnages with this ##C_0## added to the energy.
 
Right so with the time dependent part,

[tex]E = i \hbar \dfrac{1}{\varphi (t)} \dfrac{\partial \varphi (t)}{\partial t}[/tex]

If I re-arrange:

[tex]\dfrac{E}{i \hbar} = \dfrac{1}{\varphi (t)} \dfrac{\partial \varphi (t)}{\partial t}[/tex]

And the integrate with respect to (t) I'll get:

[tex]\dfrac{E}{i \hbar} t = \ln(\varphi (t))[/tex]

And then re-arranging I get:

[tex]\varphi (t) = e^{\dfrac{-i E t}{ \hbar}}[/tex]


So if the separation constant E is the energy, I'll get my other differential equation with C0 added to it:

[tex]E + C_0 = i \hbar \dfrac{1}{\varphi (t)} \dfrac{\partial \varphi (t)}{\partial t}[/tex]

[tex]\dfrac{E + C_0}{i \hbar} = \dfrac{1}{\varphi (t)} \dfrac{\partial \varphi (t)}{\partial t}[/tex]

[tex]\dfrac{E + C_0}{i \hbar} t = \ln (\varphi (t))[/tex]

And then re-arranging:

[tex]e^\dfrac{-iEt -iC_0 t}{\hbar} = \varphi (t)[/tex]

Which becomes ##e^\dfrac{-iEt}{\hbar} e^\dfrac{-iC_0 t}{\hbar} = \varphi (t)##

This is just like the original one, but with the phase factor of ##e^\dfrac{-iC_0 t}{\hbar}## added to it. So I guess that's the answer?

With the second part of the question: "How will this phase-factor affect the expectation value of a dynamical variable?"

Does it mean to calculate ##<x> = \int \varphi (t)^* (x) \varphi (t) dx ## and compare the one with and without the C0?
 

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