Quantum Mechanics: Transformation Matrix

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The discussion revolves around finding a transformation matrix ##\mathbb{S}## that converts a column vector representing a photon polarization state from a linear basis of vectors ##|x\rangle## and ##|y\rangle## to a circular basis of vectors ##|R\rangle## and ##|L\rangle##. The context is within quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on polarization states of photons.

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  • Participants explore the definition of the transformation matrix ##\mathbb{S}## and its role in converting between different polarization bases. There is uncertainty about the exact requirements of the problem, with questions about the correctness of proposed matrix forms and the implications of using ##\mathbb{S}## versus ##\mathbb{S}^{\dagger}##.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the setup and definitions involved in the transformation. Some have provided insights into the structure of the polarization states and the expected outcomes of applying the transformation matrix, while others seek further clarification on the requirements.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the notation and the specific form of the transformation matrix. Participants are also considering the implications of using different forms of the matrix in the context of quantum mechanics.

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Homework Statement



Determine a ##2\times 2## matrix ##\mathbb{S}## that can be used to transform a column vector representing a photon polarization state using the linear polarization vectors ##|x\rangle## and ##|y\rangle## as a basis to one using the circular polarization vectors ##|R\rangle## and ##|L\rangle## as a basis.

Homework Equations



##|R\rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\left(|x\rangle+i|y\rangle\right)##

##|L\rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\left(|x\rangle-i|y\rangle\right)##

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Not sure exactly what the question is asking.

Is it asking to use ##|x\rangle## and ##|y\rangle## as a basis to find the transformation matrix that transforms ##|x\rangle## and ##|y\rangle## to ##|R\rangle## and ##|L\rangle##?

If that is what it's asking, then would this be correct:

##\mathbb{S}=\left[{\begin{array}{cc} \langle R|x\rangle & \langle L|y\rangle \\ \langle R|x\rangle & \langle L|y\rangle \\\end{array}}\right]?##
 
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Hello and welcome to PF!

I think you have the right idea but your matrix for ##\mathbb{S}## is not correct (It has two identical columns).

An arbitrary polarization state, ##|\psi \rangle = a|x \rangle + b|y \rangle##, can be written as a column matrix $$\binom{a}{b}_{\!xy}$$ where the subsrcipt tells us which basis we're using.

The same state of polarization could be expressed in terms of the ##|R \rangle## and ##|L \rangle## basis states:
##|\psi \rangle = c|R \rangle + d|L \rangle##. Or, as $$\binom{c}{d}_{\!RL}$$ I believe the question is asking you to find a matrix ##\mathbb{S}## that will transform any ##\binom{a}{b}_{\!xy}## into the corresponding ##\binom{c}{d}_{\!RL}##.

If, for example, the polarization state is ##|\psi \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}|x \rangle + \sqrt{\frac{2}{3}}e^{i\pi/4}|y \rangle##, then if you apply the matrix ##\mathbb{S}## to
\begin{pmatrix}
\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \\\sqrt{\frac{2}{3}}e^{i\pi/4}
\end{pmatrix} you will get the corresponding column matrix that expresses the same state in the ##|R \rangle## and ##|L \rangle## basis.
 
TSny said:
Hello and welcome to PF!

Thank you!

I think you have the right idea but your matrix for ##\mathbb{S}## is not correct (It has two identical columns).

I made a mistake. It should be ##\mathbb{S}^{\dagger}## instead of ##\mathbb{S}##.

An arbitrary polarization state, ##|\psi \rangle = a|x \rangle + b|y \rangle##, can be written as a column matrix $$\binom{a}{b}_{\!xy}$$ where the subsrcipt tells us which basis we're using.

The same state of polarization could be expressed in terms of the ##|R \rangle## and ##|L \rangle## basis states:
##|\psi \rangle = c|R \rangle + d|L \rangle##. Or, as $$\binom{c}{d}_{\!RL}$$ I believe the question is asking you to find a matrix ##\mathbb{S}## that will transform any ##\binom{a}{b}_{\!xy}## into the corresponding ##\binom{c}{d}_{\!RL}##.

If, for example, the polarization state is ##|\psi \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}|x \rangle + \sqrt{\frac{2}{3}}e^{i\pi/4}|y \rangle##, then if you apply the matrix ##\mathbb{S}## to
\begin{pmatrix}
\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \\\sqrt{\frac{2}{3}}e^{i\pi/4}
\end{pmatrix} you will get the corresponding column matrix that expresses the same state in the ##|R \rangle## and ##|L \rangle## basis.

Can you elaborate please?

So we need to find a matrix ##\mathbb{S}## such that ##\mathbb{S} \binom{a}{b}_{\!xy} = \binom{c}{d}_{\!RL}## is true?
 
Robben said:
So we need to find a matrix ##\mathbb{S}## such that ##\mathbb{S} \binom{a}{b}_{\!xy} = \binom{c}{d}_{\!RL}## is true?

Yes, I believe that's what you are asked to do. For example, suppose you take a state that is linearly polarized in the x direction: ##\binom{1}{0}_{\!xy}##. After multiplying by ##\mathbb{S}##, what column vector should you get?
 
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