Quantum Mechanics - Unitary Operators and Spin 1/2

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem related to unitary operators and spin-1/2 systems. Participants are examining the application of rotation operators to manipulate quantum states, specifically focusing on the measurement of spin along a specified direction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the correct choice of the vector n for a rotation operator that will yield the desired spin state. They express uncertainty about the eigenvector corresponding to the +1 eigenvalue of a specific matrix and question the feasibility of achieving the desired state. Other participants suggest reconsidering the matrix used and clarify the role of the rotation operator in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the matrices involved and the implications of their choices. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of rotation operators and the significance of the eigenvectors, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the units involved, specifically the relationship between the spin operators and the factor of \hbar/2. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the problem as posed in the homework context.

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Hi, I'm doing question 2/II/32D at the top of page 68 here (http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/undergrad/pastpapers/2005/Part_2/list_II.pdf ). I have done everything except for the last sentence of the question.

This is what I have attempted so far:

[tex]|\chi\rangle=|\uparrow\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0 \end{array} \right)[/tex]

Then [tex]U|\chi\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}<br /> cos(\theta /2) \\<br /> 0 \end{array} \right)-(\boldsymbol{n}.\boldsymbol{\sigma})\left( \begin{array}{c}<br /> isin(\theta /2) \\<br /> 0 \end{array} \right)[/tex]

Now I need to choose n. If I want the spin up state measured along the direction (sin@,0,cos@) am I correct in thinking I need the eigenvector corresponding to the +1 eigenvalue of this matrix?:

[tex]\sigma_1 sin\theta+\sigma_3 cos\theta=\left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> cos\theta & sin\theta \\<br /> sin\theta & -cos\theta \end{array} \right)[/tex]

In which case this the desired state is [tex]U|\chi\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}<br /> sin\theta \\<br /> 1-cos\theta \end{array} \right)[/tex]

But I don't think it's possible to choose n such that this is the case, so where have I gone wrong? Also do I need to worry about any [tex]\hbar /2[/tex] since [tex]\boldsymbol{S}=\frac{\hbar}{2}\boldsymbol{\sigma}[/tex]?

Thanks.
 
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Tangent87 said:
Hi, I'm doing question 2/II/32D at the top of page 68 here (http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/undergrad/pastpapers/2005/Part_2/list_II.pdf ). I have done everything except for the last sentence of the question.

This is what I have attempted so far:

[tex]|\chi\rangle=|\uparrow\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0 \end{array} \right)[/tex]

Then [tex]U|\chi\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}<br /> cos(\theta /2) \\<br /> 0 \end{array} \right)-(\boldsymbol{n}.\boldsymbol{\sigma})\left( \begin{array}{c}<br /> isin(\theta /2) \\<br /> 0 \end{array} \right)[/tex]

Now I need to choose n. If I want the spin up state measured along the direction (sin@,0,cos@) am I correct in thinking I need the eigenvector corresponding to the +1 eigenvalue of this matrix?:

[tex]\sigma_1 sin\theta+\sigma_3 cos\theta=\left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> cos\theta & sin\theta \\<br /> sin\theta & -cos\theta \end{array} \right)[/tex]

In which case this the desired state is [tex]U|\chi\rangle=\left( \begin{array}{c}<br /> sin\theta \\<br /> 1-cos\theta \end{array} \right)[/tex]

But I don't think it's possible to choose n such that this is the case, so where have I gone wrong?
Right idea, wrong matrix. Think about it like this: you are trying to arrange for the component of spin along a particular axis to be [itex]+\hbar/2[/itex], so you need to find the +1 eigenvalue of the matrix that measures spin along that axis. If the axis were the z axis, you'd use [itex]S_z[/itex]. If it were the x axis, you'd use [itex]S_x[/itex]. For an arbitrary axis, though, you don't have a precomputed spin matrix, so you'll need to calculate it by applying a rotation to one of the known spin matrices.

Now, do you know how to use [itex]U[/itex] to implement a rotation? Specifically, remember what the meanings of the vector [itex]\hat{n}[/itex] and the parameter [itex]\theta[/itex] are, in the context of rotations.
Tangent87 said:
Also do I need to worry about any [tex]\hbar /2[/tex] since [tex]\boldsymbol{S}=\frac{\hbar}{2}\boldsymbol{\sigma}[/tex]?
Keep in mind that [itex]\sigma[/itex] is unitless, and just make sure the units are consistent :wink:
 
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diazona said:
Right idea, wrong matrix. Think about it like this: you are trying to arrange for the component of spin along a particular axis to be [itex]+\hbar/2[/itex], so you need to find the +1 eigenvalue of the matrix that measures spin along that axis. If the axis were the z axis, you'd use [itex]S_z[/itex]. If it were the x axis, you'd use [itex]S_x[/itex]. For an arbitrary axis, though, you don't have a precomputed spin matrix, so you'll need to calculate it by applying a rotation to one of the known spin matrices.

Now, do you know how to use [itex]U[/itex] to implement a rotation? Specifically, remember what the meanings of the vector [itex]\hat{n}[/itex] and the parameter [itex]\theta[/itex] are, in the context of rotations.

Keep in mind that [itex]\sigma[/itex] is unitless, and just make sure the units are consistent :wink:

Can you tell me what I've done wrong in using the matrix [tex]\boldsymbol{m}.\boldsymbol{\sigma}=<br /> \sigma_1 sin\theta+\sigma_3 cos\theta=\left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> cos\theta & sin\theta \\<br /> sin\theta & -cos\theta \end{array} \right)[/tex] where m=(sin@,0,cos@) (the direction for the new spin up state). Now we have to choose an n such that [tex]U=exp(-i\boldsymbol{n}.\boldsymbol{\sigma}\theta/2)[/tex] rotates our original spin up state into this new one? As you say, U here is the rotation operator which will rotate the state by an angle theta about n.
 
Actually I think I might have just figured it out. I think I've got the RIGHT matrix, just the WRONG eigenvectors. My spin up eigenvector can be simplified to (cos(@/2),sin(@/2)) and if I choose n to be n=(0,1,0) I think that will work?
 
Yes, that's correct.
 
Tangent87 said:
Can you tell me what I've done wrong in using the matrix [tex]\boldsymbol{m}.\boldsymbol{\sigma}=<br /> \sigma_1 sin\theta+\sigma_3 cos\theta=\left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> cos\theta & sin\theta \\<br /> sin\theta & -cos\theta \end{array} \right)[/tex] where m=(sin@,0,cos@) (the direction for the new spin up state). Now we have to choose an n such that [tex]U=exp(-i\boldsymbol{n}.\boldsymbol{\sigma}\theta/2)[/tex] rotates our original spin up state into this new one? As you say, U here is the rotation operator which will rotate the state by an angle theta about n.
Ah, sorry about that. I didn't go all the way to the end of the calculation so I didn't realize that the matrix you have is actually the right one for this case.
 

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