Quantum mechanics, wavefunction problem

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving a wavefunction expressed as a linear combination of two orthonormal states. The original poster is tasked with determining the coefficients of this combination based on the wavefunction at time t=0.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to utilize the known wavefunction at t=0 to find the coefficients c_1 and c_2, expressing uncertainty about handling the integration of the wavefunctions. Other participants question the meaning of orthonormality in the context of integrals involving the wavefunctions and their complex conjugates.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing clarifications about the use of complex conjugates in inner products and confirming the orthogonality of the wavefunctions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct formulation for calculating the coefficients, but no consensus has been reached on the complete solution.

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There is an indication of confusion regarding the application of complex conjugates in the integrals, and the original poster expresses a lack of clarity about their understanding of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


Consider the wavefunction [itex]\Psi (x,t)=c_1 \psi _1 (x)e^{-\frac{iE_1t}{\hbar}}+c_2 \psi _2 (x)e^{-\frac{iE_2t}{\hbar}}[/itex] where [itex]\psi _1 (x)[/itex] and [itex]\psi _2 (x)[/itex] are normalized and orthogonal. Knowing [itex]\Psi (x,0)[/itex], find the values of [itex]c_1[/itex] and [itex]c_2[/itex].


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[itex]C^2 \int _{-\infty}^{\infty} |\Psi (x,t)|^2 dx=1[/itex]. I also know that the product of psi 1 by psi 2 is worth 0 (they are orthogonal) so this simplifies the expression to integrate.
But I'm still left with the integration of both lower case psi functions that I don't know how to handle.

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm thinking on how to use the fact that I know Psi at t=0 but so far I'm out of ideas.
 
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[itex]\psi _i (x)[/itex]-s are orthonormal, what does it mean on the integrals of [itex]\psi _i ^* (x) \psi _j (x)[/itex]?

ehild
 
ehild said:
[itex]\psi _i (x)[/itex]-s are orthonormal, what does it mean on the integrals of [itex]\psi _i ^* (x) \psi _j (x)[/itex]?

ehild

Sorry for being almost 1 month late. That they are worth 1?

Edit: Is what I've done right?:
[itex]\int _{-\infty}^{\infty} \Psi _1 (x) \Psi (x,0)dx=c_1 \int _{-\infty}^{\infty} \Psi _1 ^2 (x)dx=c_1[/itex].
In the same fashion I get [itex]c_2=\int _{-\infty}^{\infty} \Psi _2 (x) \Psi (x,0)dx[/itex].
But I didn't use any complex conjugate... I must be missing something.
 
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That's almost correct. It should be
[tex]c_i = \int \psi_i^*(x)\Psi(x,0)\,dx[/tex]When you calculate the inner product, you use the complex conjugate of the first function in the integrand.
 
vela said:
That's almost correct. It should be
[tex]c_i = \int \psi_i^*(x)\Psi(x,0)\,dx[/tex]When you calculate the inner product, you use the complex conjugate of the first function in the integrand.

Let's see if I understand:
[itex]\int _{- \infty}^{\infty} \Psi _1 ^* (x) \Psi (x,0)dx=c_1 \int _{- \infty}^{\infty} \Psi _1 ^* (x) \Psi _1 (x)dx=c_1 \int _{-\infty} ^{\infty} |\Psi _1 (x)|^2 dx=c_1[/itex].
Am I right if I say that since [itex]\Psi _1(x)[/itex] and [itex]\Psi _2 (x)[/itex] are orthogonal, so is [itex]\Psi _1^* (x)[/itex] with [itex]\Psi _2 (x)[/itex]? Because I'm using this fact!
Thanks for your help guys.
 
Yup. When you say the two are orthogonal, you mean that
[tex]\int \psi_1^*(x)\psi_2(x)\,dx = 0.[/tex]It does not mean that
[tex]\int \psi_1(x)\psi_2(x)\,dx = 0.[/tex]The complex conjugation is a vital part of taking the inner product.
 
vela said:
Yup. When you say the two are orthogonal, you mean that
[tex]\int \psi_1^*(x)\psi_2(x)\,dx = 0.[/tex]It does not mean that
[tex]\int \psi_1(x)\psi_2(x)\,dx = 0.[/tex]The complex conjugation is a vital part of taking the inner product.
Oh, I understand. Wow, thank so you much. My understanding was so poor before I asked help for this problem... now things are getting clearer.
 

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