Undergrad Quantum Mechanics without time?

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The discussion centers on the concept of time in quantum mechanics, questioning whether a framework exists that operates without it. Participants agree that even theories suggesting time's non-existence still account for its emergence at an effective level. The idea of timelessness is explored, particularly in relation to retrocausality, but is met with skepticism regarding its validity in physics. Some contributors express uncertainty about the coherence of quantum theories devoid of time, acknowledging that time is a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards the necessity of time in understanding quantum phenomena.
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Is there a view in quantummechanics, of quantummechanics, without time as a concept?
 
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Indeed, even those who claim that time does not exist at the fundamental level, still try to explain how effective time emerges at an effective level.
 
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entropy1 said:
Is there a view in quantummechanics, of quantummechanics, without time as a concept?
Why? Just asking about the motivation of the question.
 
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martinbn said:
Why? Just asking about the motivation of the question.
I am thinking some things over in which timelessness could explain some things. For example retrocausality.
 
entropy1 said:
I am thinking some things over in which timelessness could explain some things.
Well, that clarifies somethings about things.
 
martinbn said:
Well, that clarifies somethings about things.
Yes, I can't tell you much because they are not purely physics nor is it decently worked out. Kind'a crackpot. 🤪 But everyone many thanks for answering!
 
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Since there is no retrocausality in physics (neither in classical nor quantum) your don't need to bother to think about QT without time. :oldbiggrin:
 
I heard somewhere sometime that some QM theories have no time. But now I think of it, that seems a bit silly because it obviously does exist in some way.
 
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I heard somewhere sometime
This is not a valid reference. Please give a specific link to a specific reference. If you don't have one, then please refrain from making such vague references in the first place.

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