Quantum Physics. Gasiorowicz ch1 problem num15

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The problem involves using Bohr quantization rules to calculate energy states for a potential defined by V(r) = V_0 (r/a)^k, where k is very large. Participants are tasked with sketching the potential form and demonstrating that energy values approach E_n ≈ Cn².

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion regarding the problem's wording and the definitions of Bohr quantization rules and energy states. Some suggest that the potential describes a particle in circular motion and discuss the implications of a central force on motion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationship between the potential and the motion of the particle. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of angular momentum quantization and the relationship between kinetic and potential energy, but no consensus has been reached on the assumptions required for the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note ambiguity in the problem's description, particularly regarding the type of particle and the situation being modeled. There is also discussion about the conditions under which uniform circular motion can be assumed.

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Homework Statement


Use the Bohr quantinization rules to calculate the energy states for a potential given by

[itex]V(r)=V_0 (\frac{r}{a})^k[/itex]
with k very large. Sketch the form of the potential and show that the energy values approach [itex]E_n \cong Cn^2[/itex]

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The Attempt at a Solution


I read textbook of ch1. but I can't understand the problem.
What is Bohr quantinization rules?
What is the energy states?
The potential for what particle?
Such things are not explained in the text. At least what such words indicate is ambiguous. The exact words don't appear in the text.
Problem don't describe a situation enough.
 
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You're right, it's very ambiguous the way it's worded, but if you think about what this potential might describe it becomes clear.

I'll give you a hint, this potential describes a particle undergoing circular motion!

You are also going to need to use Bohr's angular momentum quantization rule (page 17)
[tex] mvr = n\hbar <br /> \\ n = 1,2,3,...[/tex]

Using this, and the hint I have given you, can you think of a way to set up an expression that might give you quantized (discrete!) energy levels?

Remember: Energy = Kinetic + Potential!
 
I can see the potential is of central force.
But how can I know that the particle is undergone uniform ciruclar motion?
The given potential always implies UCM?
 
A central potential will always yield motion defined by
[tex] F = -\nabla V(r) [/tex]
This might not result in uniform circular motion, that depends on the particle's velocity. However, this permits the force to be written as:
[tex] F = \frac{mv^{2}}{r}[/tex]
 
Very helpful.
I thought [itex]F = \frac{mv^2}{r}[/itex] is only for UCM
 
Right, of course it is, I'm not sure what I was thinking when I posted above. It is true however that any central potential will allow uniform circular motion, and I can't seem to think of any other way to go about this problem without first assuming the particle is undergoing uniform circular motion. The solution is perfect when you assume UCM.

Sorry for the late reply.
 

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